Changeset: 119834336
Pont des Hospices/Godshuizenbrug - fixed mistakes caused by changeset 119832979 (user seems to use outdated imagery because the traffic situation has changed + bad iD presets for cycleways)
Closed by bxl-forever
Tags
created_by | JOSM/1.5 (18427 en) |
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source | https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=2985327015112294 |
Discussion
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Comment from Der Bierpuncheur
Good evening and bonne année à toi. Looking at this area, I saw w845752209 (https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/845752209/history) which was originally a "highway=path" but was changed to a cycleway. Is this correct? Functionally, it would be inefficient and unsafe to cycle on this path, but before I change it, I could not determine if it is designated a cycleway officially. Can you help? Or should I tag it FixMe?
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Comment from bxl-forever
Hello,
Thanks for sharing thoughts here. The change into a cycleway was in v2 of the object, not in my changeset.
That being said, I see a D10 sign here, which makes it legal to use this path, and intended as such by the local authorities.
https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=115889621114934
highway=cycleway + foot=yes + segregated=no seems to be a good set of tags in such a case.
(highway=footway + bicycle=yes + segregated=no is a synonym, it’s just a choice if we want to see it primarily as a cycle track or as a sidewalk; in this case I agree with highway=cycleway)I don’t know this cycle track in great detail, it seems to be narrower on other places and probably impossible to use near the railway bridge:
https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=447370653824984So, if you had planned to examine this, maybe you could inspect if there are different parts of it that should be treated differently. In that case, split the cycleway and connect it to the main road if necessary. Cycle routing seems broken on this point: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/7890527540
If you were planning to survey here or spend some time fixing the map, your help would be appreciated.
One last thing: highway=path is a generic category that broadly says "something for pedestrians, cyclists and horse riders, and not for cars", typically version 1 of most objects, traced very roughly in the early days. Then, when we bring more knowledge into the map, we usually change paths into something more detailed.
Happy mapping.
Ways (1-20 of 23)
- 1
- 2
- Pont des Hospices - Godshuizenbrug (1052546410), v1
- 1052546411, v1
- 1052546412, v1
- 1052546413, v1
- Pont des Hospices - Godshuizenbrug (14833818), v5
- Pont des Hospices - Godshuizenbrug (15452730), v17
- Pont des Hospices - Godshuizenbrug (15452737), v8
- Quai de Mariemont - Mariemontkaai (312666639), v11
- 510673139, v6
- Pont des Hospices - Godshuizenbrug (544900922), v6
- 704354670, v3
- 845752209, v3
- 987912248, v3
- Quai de l'Industrie - Nijverheidskaai (993748828), v3
- 1052530853, v2
- 1052530854, v2
- 1052530855, v2
- 1052530857, v2
510673138, v4969543005, v3
Relations (3)
- CK Itinéraire Cyclable Régional - Gewestelijke Fietsroute (1119347), v82
- EuroVelo 5 - Via Romea Francigena - part Belgium (6585266), v411
- Pont des Hospices - Godshuizenbrug (7785575), v3
Nodes (13)
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