Changeset: 122365372
bike survey around Capellen canton in May/June
Closed by kewl
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created_by | JOSM/1.5 (18427 en) |
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source | survey |
Discussion
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Comment from SHARCRASH
Salut T! :) As you know I've done a tour last Thursday in this region. On your CS :
- on v2 of https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1026386742 you lifecycled this path with the prefix "abandoned:" but i still found it. To be fair, it is faint from the top because of the leaves (but this happens ever year after Fall season) but still recognizable mid way with erosion between the grasses. As extra sources, you could have helped yourself with the LIDAR and Heatmap's data showing some light GPS traces. On your activity, I remember you photographed rather the hollow way instead of this path. Is that maybe what you thought to be the path? My photos:
from top https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JIW-duwXIQj40W7BYGWE04of6ECzAqxq
and bottom + mid way
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FH1xJTdwqMEUI9-mlkiLgxayW5eRCNcX- on v2 of https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1026386741 you tagged this track with access=no whereas there is nothing that forbids anyone to use it and it is clearly visible (2 trails). So here I can't understand your tagging even though you had put a note saying "seems abandoned but didn't get evidence". It is obviously not abandoned or tell me what do you mean by "abandoned". Surely not every month forestry vehicles pass over every track and refresh the erosion, possibly even every year for the lowest levels of unpaved tracks, i mean which are left natural, so yeah they can be "délaissés" but they will surely be reused depending of the kind of user. If you didn't get evidence it is abandoned, then no need to point that out and add access=no. Photo: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EVtjTslvh80c8IysChNAla7Sw7_XYyHo
Because of these I would like to understand the reasons of your edits.
I think you realize that not all tracks are of the same level of infrastructure, some are kept natural to keep land antural and make sure that the ground is not too impacted by human exploitation. On these it is normal that nature dominates back with grasses or little shrubs but the ways will be reused, though with less chances if you hide them in OSM. Naturally, the grade4 can later become grade5 and these last can become either a path if some pedestrians, cyclists, horses still use it while some shrubs have grown in the mean time and restrict passage to big vehicles, or of course disappear (abandoned in terms of OSM's lifecyle prefix) because of high grasses, shrubs, trees and other obstacles concealing/restricting the way.
I could go on and explain you my vision of ways in nature but I'd write a book, don't want to take too much of your time. LOL :) Good day and safe ride!
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