Changeset: 123450868
Removes non-existing razed tracks which have absolutely no trace left in the real world were removed. Every single removed object was examined along its path with the latest available satellite imagery to ensure that they were truly gone with no traces.
Closed by CurlingMan13
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Discussion
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Comment from RussNelson
Hey, thanks for trying to be a good editor, but I'm going to have to revert these. I've been everywhere in New York State, and if I add something, it should be there.
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Comment from CurlingMan13
But they don't exist and have no remnants on the latest satellite imagery. Non-existent items should not be mapped. They have no traces remaining, no ties, signals or other objects. All wiki pages, OSM practices and guidance outline that only things that exist or have some form of trace (ties, rails, signals, etc.) that meet the definition of "razed" should be mapped.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice#Verifiability
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice#Don.27t_map_for_the_renderer
If we're going to map what used to be railways, we need to start mapping the former paths of waterways, such as rivers. What about woods that have since been cut down. I think we need to start adding natural=wood + wood=razed to all the farmlands and golf courses. What about all the former alignment of roadways and what clearly used to be roadways?
I've been a lot of places, but there is definitely no railway, abandoned, razed or orther wise, that goes through people's living rooms, across freeways, or through schools.
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Comment from RussNelson
Have you been to Batavia?
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Comment from CurlingMan13
Not sure how that is relevant, but yes I have, lived down the street for a few years. Still visit occasionally...
Have you, yourseld, been to Batavia? What about Chili? or Scottsville? Henrietta?
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Comment from RussNelson
Yup, yup, yup, and yup. Specifically to research abandoned railroads. Which you deleted because you didn't see them.
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Comment from Skunkman56
Check the terrain data from Lidar- the track ballast and cuts may still be evident, allowing one to see the grade on the ground by dedicated survey: https://apps.nationalmap.gov/3depdem/ overgrown with trees may obscure it from leaf-off aerial imagery, but doesn't mean its not there. Might as well delete a bunch of tree-overhung streams and roads if using that logic.
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