Changeset: 131034453
Power towers, lines, and relations
Closed by bahnpirat
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Discussion
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Comment from Oriol Raventós
Hi,
OSM shows an error coming from this chagnges. When clicking in Edit the Relation: Conneforde/Ost (15098810), there is the error message: "Substation Conneforde/Ost has an unclosed part".
But beyond that: Is there a reason, why to change Conneforde substations as relations instead of ways? I think, modelled as a simple polygon as before is more consistent with the way substations in Europe are modeled and simpler. It seems complicated to model them as relations from their fences (which are actually polygons and not multipolygons).
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Comment from bahnpirat
I can't find the unclosed section in Conneforde/Ost.
Over ten years ago it was one (1) substation. Then regulations of EU forced to split transmission grid and distribution grid to be seperated into different companies, from EON into TenneT TSO (380/220 kV) and EON Netz (110 kV). EON Netz is sold/reanamed to Avacon by now.
There are only a few fences on the area. But there are seperat entry gates and points on a line, that are labed as if they leave the current substation. (https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/15098932) Area will be under construction for at least till 2026.
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Comment from Oriol Raventós
Thank you for your response.
I can't see it anymore, because somebody else edited the way 1128250704 and turn it into a closed polygon again and also deleted the relation.
I understand your point about the changing situation in that substation, but I still think that modelled as closed polygons is simpler than defining a relation of fences that determine the polygon.
So I think they should be separate substations, but each modeled as a way.
- 23837631, v32
- 302 (28440233), v16
- 3022 (30279557), v14
- Conneforde 380 kV (30279567), v14
- 206 (31744203), v34
- Conneforde 220 kV SS1 (32076761), v21
- 302 (106684916), v6
- 106684919, v8
- 206 (106684928), v7
- 3022 (106684934), v8
- 106684941, v8
- Conneforde 380 kV (106684945), v9
- Conneforde 380 kV (106684950), v11
- 206 (106684956), v7
- Conneforde 380 kV Umgehungsschiene (106684959), v10
- Conneforde 220 kV (106684965), v5
- Conneforde 220 kV (106685974), v6
- Conneforde 220 kV (106685978), v6
- 118942003, v7
- 118942012, v8
Relations (1-20 of 34)
- 1
- 2
- Neubau 380-kV-Hochspannungsleitung/Kabel (86589), v27
- Conneforde - Huntorf - Blockland Weiß (300029), v24
- 110 kV Conneforde - Zwischenahn grün (941148), v22
- 020 weiß (1086364), v18
- 012a (1086365), v14
- 302 (1086366), v20
- 302 (1086367), v18
- 016 grün (1484925), v11
- 016 schwarz (1484927), v10
- 032/1043 schwarz (1550154), v18
- 304 rot (1637160), v19
- 304 weiß (1637161), v20
- 204 rot (1637162), v19
- 204 blau (1637164), v20
- 007 rot (2138371), v16
- 006/084 rot (2138372), v10
- 007 gelb (2138373), v15
- 006/084 schwarz (2138374), v10
- 012a/020 blau (2143007), v14
- 203 weiß (2312879), v23
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