Changeset: 141015569
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Closed by phd0
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changesets_count | 7209 |
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created_by | iD 2.27.1 |
host | https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit |
imagery_used | CIRB/CIBG most recent aerial imagery |
locale | fr |
resolved:mismatched_geometry:point_as_vertex | 4 |
resolved:outdated_tags:deprecated_tags | 1 |
resolved:outdated_tags:incomplete_tags | 28 |
resolved:outdated_tags:noncanonical_brand | 95 |
warnings:outdated_tags:noncanonical_brand | 1 |
Discussion
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Comment from bxl-forever
Hello,
Your changeset corrupts some data.
Please NEVER blindly follow tagging suggestion of an editor, especially not the iD editor.
iD is a simple editor aimed at new users, it should not be used for large-scale operations.
iD’s suggestion index contains several controversial presets which we are trying to convince the devs to remove. Please be considerate of the work done by other mappers. We spent considerable time getting tags right so that many third-party apps can re-use data. It is fairly saddening to see someone coming and click-click-click-click on every option in iD and change hundreds of objects.
Have a nice day.
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Comment from phd0
hello, i'm so sorry for corrupting some data. This is naturally not my goal. If you think that the automatic fixes in iD are wrong, you can participate in the changes at https://github.com/osmlab/name-suggestion-index
I am following it to actually correct some lousy advice. On the other hand the TAG "not:brand:wikidata=" can help you. But given the number of modifications you have already made, I have absolutely nothing to teach you.
for information, I am curious to know which tags were incorrectly modified (which "brand=")?Philippe
french user -
Comment from RaphaelPasloin
Hello Philippe,
Par exemple les Proxy Delhaize qui ne sont pas des Delhaize ni de nom ni de Brand, c'est ce qui m'a sauté aux yeux directement ; il doit en avoir d'autres mais vu la taille du changeset ça va prendre du temps à tout contrôler.
Un belle journée,
Raphaël -
Comment from phd0
yes, I admit that on this one: I was a little violent on the number of changes in one go. it's time to me to take a pause ...
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Comment from bxl-forever
Thanks for writing back. I am sure you have good intentions.
In general, brand:* tags suggestions for shops run by large companies are correct. With some exceptions: I found a bookstore created by Raphaël, which iD assumed to be a German brand. And sometimes, the type of shop is controversial (is ASICS a shoes shop or a clothes shop, are Proximus/BASE stores telecommunication or mobile phone shops…) but I won’t personally fight for that.
Your changeset is not only about brands, e.g. there is a silly iD suggestion to disconnect advertising boards from the shelter despite the correct support tags are set. Or adding names on charging stations. Or assuming that the ground entrance of an underground car-park should have layer=-1…
Of course, you did not code iD and you are not responsible if they ignore most suggestions to fix their buggy editor. At least we had this discussion and you will know that one must exercice caution when accepting suggestions, otherwise it becomes a mechanical edit, which is generaly frowned upon.
Enjoy your mapping break.
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Comment from phd0
yes, for Raphaël's library, I added a "not:brand:wikidata=" to prevent another person from being fooled as well.
this story of suggestion to disconnect the shelter's billboards despite the correct support tags being defined: I'll try to dig. discuss it with our French experts (I am not) to know their opinions, and what would be the solution. If I made a mistake, others will too.
thank you for your patience with me.
philippe
Ways (11)
- Delhaize (21508474), v14
- Sofitel Brussels Europe (31058156), v14
- 114022157, v4
- 507555692, v3
- 524922561, v4
- École Notre-Dame-de-la-Sainte-Espérance (725121121), v7
- Braffort (744215615), v3
- Georges Henri (791114680), v2
- 959773779, v2
- 959773780, v2
- 1009599803, v2
Relations (4)
- L26 (57641), v109
- Sablon-Poelaert (6004251), v6
- Albertine-Square - Albertina-Square (6981908), v7
- Metro 2: Elisabeth → Simonis (7305691), v16
- 11178368997, v1
- 11178368998, v1
- 11178368999, v1
- 11178369000, v1
- Tulipe (286920075), v11
- Cocq (331424807), v8
- Louise - Louiza (331425301), v10
- 344620673, v18
- Jourdan (344718171), v4
- 350799538, v14
- Nicolas (350832570), v5
- Garage Pigeon (734753355), v5
- Liberty (840028045), v6
- CASA (873887662), v8
- Fnac (873887668), v7
- Coloniale (993649480), v6
- bpost (1128073575), v8
- 1145572870, v7
- 1502246836, v8
- Porte de Namur - Naamsepoort (1590840719), v8
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