Changeset: 141489136
Removed expressway=yes from motorway
Closed by Joseph R P
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Discussion
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Comment from ElliottPlack
Hi Joseph, thanks for your work on highways around the region. At this time I don't think we can consider MD 210 a limited access motorway. Bicycle are still allowed and are encouraged on the shoulders via the recent installation of several bicycle-only access points:
- https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1273822411
- https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1273822413
- https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1273822426Although I don't think I would enjoy bike riding around on 210 near the beltway, it is allowed. Pedestrians are also permitted on the shoulders. Would you be opposed to rolling this back to Trunk?
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Comment from Joseph R P
I'll go ahead and do that. I've been removing these sort of short controlled-access sections of highways tagged as motorways as of recent. Considering the addition of bicycle infrastructure, its relatively low speed limit (45 mph), its short length, and a myriad of other non-freeway characteristics, downgrading this section makes sense to me.
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Comment from ElliottPlack
Very good, thank you! I see you've completed the edits. While you're at it, what are your thoughts on the motorway portions of MD 4 and MD 4, both in the vicinity just east of here. All of these routes serve as high volume connectors getting suburban commuters to DC and beyond. MD 4 does have some limited access sections but it currently looks to be an isolated motorway.
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Comment from Joseph R P
I think MD 4 and 5 make sense as motorways given their longer lengths, higher speeds, and bigger number of grade separation; their intentions appear to be to serve as freeways, as opposed to 210, which is rather a typical limited-access highway with a few interchanges in a row within a short distance. MD 4 currently is isolated from other freeways, but some upgrades are supposed to happen at the Suitland/Presidential intersection, turning it into an interchange at some point. Not sure whether that's supposed to remove the other signalized intersections, however. MD 5 seems to me to be a very good example of a non-interstate motorway spur, in where it has a freeway-to-freeway connection with another motorway (except with I 495 west to MD 5 north) as well as all the other requirements like a speed limit of at least 55, grade separations throughout its length, and a length indicating these aren't just grade separations consequentially adjacent but rather a proper freeway.
To me it is fine to have isolated motorways just as long as the highways being tagged as such are intended to be freeways as opposed to roads that look like freeways but have some sort of violation (bike/pedestrian infrastructure without grade separation, low speed limit, lack of median) or very short length.
Ways (5)
- Indian Head Highway (50612985), v27
- Indian Head Highway (291880744), v12
- Indian Head Highway (1050249701), v3
961715811, v5961715812, v5
Relations (18)
- Oxon Hill (133559), v23
- Fort Washington (133612), v19
- 210 (1601121), v61
- WMATA D13 Oxon Hill-Suitland Line (9673239), v72
- WMATA D14 Oxon Hill-Suitland Line (9673240), v70
- Commuter Bus 650: Washington, D.C. (9683165), v44
- Commuter Bus 650: La Plata/Waldorf/Accokeek (9683166), v53
- Commuter Bus 640: Waldorf/Accokeek (9683167), v56
- Commuter Bus 640: Washington, D.C. (9683168), v52
- Commuter Bus 630: Washington, D.C. (trips 1;3;5;7) (9683169), v81
- Commuter Bus 630: Washington, D.C. (trips 2;4;6;8) (9683170), v74
- Commuter Bus 630: La Plata/Waldorf (9683171), v73
- Commuter Bus 620: Waldorf (trips 13;26) (9683172), v64
- Commuter Bus 620: Waldorf (trips 14-25) (9683173), v52
- Commuter Bus 620: Washington, D.C. (9683174), v47
- Commuter Bus 610: Washington, D.C. (9683175), v39
- Commuter Bus 610: Waldorf (9683176), v49
- TheBus Route 37 Camp Springs/Southern Avenue Metro (9715126), v40
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