Changeset: 89998359
edits on and along US54/US 400 in Kansas
Closed by Your Village Maps
Tags
build | 2.5-83-g28c84372 |
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created_by | Potlatch 2 |
version | 2.5 |
Discussion
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Comment from Baloo Uriza
On this motorway portion, you think a proposed=motorway, highway=trunk would be a good compromise?
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Comment from Your Village Maps
Not really. This is a long stretch (pretty sure it's more than 10 miles) of continuously completely controlled access highway (motorway). I also checked Rand McNally road atlas; I tend to respect their take, and they have this stretch mapped as freeway. And I'm sure the long-range plan is for the parts that are now Trunk (both east and west) to be upgraded to freeway standards, and eventually maybe even a bypass of Kingman. That could take quite a while, unless government comes to their senses and really starts to take the nation's infrastructure a lot more seriously.
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Comment from Your Village Maps
It's true that there is only ONE actual interchange on this stretch, but the entire length now mapped as motorway has all the motorway features (overpasses and underpasses of lesser roads, dead-end country roads that used to cross the highway, etc.)
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Comment from Your Village Maps
And I did intentionally leave that bit of it just east of Southeast 100th Avenue as Trunk as it has those characteristics (left and right turn lanes, so part of the intersection). That's why I didn't map it as motorway all the way to Southeast 100th Avenue.
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Comment from Your Village Maps
ditto for the east end of motorway (just west of Southwest 120 Avenue)
By the way, I'm also wondering about name = Cannonball Stageline. Street view doesn't show that on any signs that I saw, and business addresses usually have "US-54" or "US Highway 54" or something similar.
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Comment from Your Village Maps
Maybe it should be noname = yes, and alt_name = Cannonball Stageline?
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Comment from Baloo Uriza
Checking Rand McNally is just a feedback loop, their source is OpenStreetmap.
alt_name isn't compatible with noname=yes.
I don't see the characteristics you describe out of line with highway=trunk *especially* given the arbitrary cut to motorway at the locations you gave...there's not a reason to step up for one exit with intersections on either end.
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Comment from Baloo Uriza
Doublechecked the name, looks like it got renamed in 2017 by the Kansas legislature. I'm disinclined to remove name=* on this for that reason.
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Comment from Your Village Maps
You said: "there's not a reason to step up for one exit with intersections on either end." I would agree if there were intersections just to each side of the interchange. But there's more than 10 miles of controlled access (overpasses, underpasses, dead ends) which has all the characteristics of a motorway or freeway.
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Comment from Your Village Maps
No problem with the name then.
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Comment from Your Village Maps
I was not aware that Rand McNally was using OpenStreetMap data. And they've been around a LONG time, way before OSM came along.
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Comment from Baloo Uriza
I honestly don't think length comes into play here since it terminates with intersections on either end. If there was one more grade separated change, I think we'd be on the same page for this one.
Yeah, Rand McNally switched to using OSM 5-10 years ago instead of doing their own cartography. Probably the best source for printed OpenStreetMap in the US since then.
That said, I'd generally recommend avoiding making mapping decisions in OSM based off commercial maps due to copyright issues.
- Cannonball Stageline (841113679), v1
- East 100th Avenue (841113680), v1
- Northeast 100th Avenue (841113681), v1
- Main Street (841113682), v1
- Southeast 100th Avenue (841113683), v1
- Northeast 100th Avenue (841113684), v1
- Cannonball Stageline (841113685), v1
- Southeast 100th Avenue (841113686), v1
- Northeast 100th Avenue (841113687), v1
- Southeast 100th Avenue (841113688), v1
- Cannonball Stageline (841113689), v1
- South Frontage Road (841113690), v1
- Cannonball Stageline (841113691), v1
- Northeast 100th Avenue (841113692), v1
- 13204355, v2
- Main Street (13205273), v3
- Main Street (13205819), v3
- West 1st Street (13205940), v3
- Northeast 100th Avenue (13206146), v12
- Southeast 100th Avenue (13206212), v5
Relations (1-20 of 28)
- 1
- 2
- NHS High Priority Corridor 51 (1323042), v212
- US 400 (Eastbound) (7473092), v37
- US 54 (KS, Eastbound) (7476271), v35
- US 400 (Westbound) (95080), v198
- NHS High Priority Corridor 51 (1323042), v209
- US 400 (Eastbound) (7473092), v34
- US 54 (KS, Westbound) (7476270), v31
- US 54 (KS, Eastbound) (7476271), v32
- US 400 (Westbound) (95080), v201
- NHS High Priority Corridor 51 (1323042), v213
- US 400 (Eastbound) (7473092), v38
- US 54 (KS, Westbound) (7476270), v34
- US 54 (KS, Eastbound) (7476271), v36
- US 400 (Westbound) (95080), v202
- NHS High Priority Corridor 51 (1323042), v214
- US 400 (Eastbound) (7473092), v39
- US 54 (KS, Westbound) (7476270), v35
- US 54 (KS, Eastbound) (7476271), v37
- US 400 (Westbound) (95080), v200
- NHS High Priority Corridor 51 (1323042), v211
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