Your link doesn’t work either - should’ve checked dev tools first, the console gives a cert error for those tiles, e.g. https://tile.osmz.ru/old/11/572/746.png

@Zverik - the 2008 map doesn’t load in that 4 map page for me?

Would be good if AEDs could be rendered on osm-carto as well…

Only issue is for those who are colourblind trying to work out what each one means at a distance without reading the access text…

I’ve done a similar thing in iD - turn off everything except traffic/service roads and paths in the map data, load up Strava’s heatmap as a custom layer and then have a look around to see if there’s “heat” which might indicate a path that’s not already mapped.

Would be really useful if the OSM highway data could be compared with Strava’s heatmap to identify these so these could be loaded into a maproulette task or something for people to check.

Could you not change the golf=green colour to the old golf course colour - rgb(181 227 181) - which would be less blue and more green?

Unless you plan on changing everything in one area, the best imagery is that which matches everything else nearby. :)

In the UK - Bing has been updated with newer imagery, but in many places it is out of alignment with the current data, Esri clarity (old Bing) and OSSV.

There’s also Strava’s heatmap which might be useful to check for any well used paths not in OSM or whether the PROWs are being followed on the ground.

https://www.strava.com/heatmap#15.67/-2.36869/53.90684/hot/run (need to login with a free account)

Or use the custom layer: https://anygis.ru/api/v1/Tracks_Strava_All/{x}/{y}/{z}

@SimonPoole

You’ll be pleased to know that it seems like there won’t be any issues come January or September: https://letsencrypt.org/2020/12/21/extending-android-compatibility.html

That’s the first time I’ve read about the changes to Let’s Encrypt - wow, seems there’s going to be a lot of broken websites for a lot of people…

Changing multiple addresses. Perhaps it is obvious but other editors (iD) can’t do it, so it is worth mentioning with jOSM we can edit multiple objects at once.

This is incorrect, iD can now edit tags in multiple objects which are selected.

Edinburgh’s level of detail comes from having excellent out of copyright OS maps available to trace from, along with some good surveying. Most places don’t have that combination so there’s not that kind of detail mapped on a city scale, just in smaller pockets carried out by enthusiastic mappers.

Fortunately we now have better quality Bing imagery to help with that kind of detailed mapping. However, the issue is that it seems to be slightly misaligned with the old Bing imagery (which I think is now used for the ESRI clarity imagery layer). So that might cause a problem if mappers don’t correct the alignment before making changes!

Sorry, not sure I understand - what do you mean “since primarys randomly change”?

The trunk road in my first link has the same tags as the primary road either side of it and also looks the same on Bing. So I’m wondering why it would be trunk - especially as I’d say the whole point is to create a motorway-trunk-primary hierarchy in the road network.

I’m not really familiar with the US road system but from UK experience I would expect to see a coherent motorway and trunk network.

Just looking at Florida I found a few examples where trunk roads are orphaned from other trunk or motorways, from: https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/VlC

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/83775365 https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/53738099 https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/555069787

There’s also a few leftover trunk_link roads which you can find via http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/?#zoom=10&lat=28.343&lon=-81.277&item=1110&level=1%2C2%2C3&tags=&fixable=

While out collecting addresses I’ve also found other useful things to map including:

Another thing that is good to map after surveying is speed limits - I notice none of the residential streets in the area you surveyed have a maxspeed tag :)

The nearest Debenhams and M&S to me didn’t sell furniture before they closed either, but they would be classed as department stores. Asda Living’s tagline is “Clothing Home Entertainment” so that basically covers everything non-food related that a department store would sell?

At least it’s a better tag than the previous one of shop=houseware which is too narrow to cover Asda Living.

Just to let you know I’ve gone through each Asda Living object and changed them to shop=department_store https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/84986153

@CjMalone Wasn’t having a go at you :) Just pointing out that the usage of houseware v department_store was more equal than the initial stats showed.

Not really sure about the petrol station situation, think I’d need to have a look at more examples in OSM and real life. This might be something to bring up on the talk-gb mailing list.

The wiki page for houseware says “A shop that focuses on small items, like cutlery, crockery, cookware and decorative items.” https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop=houseware

So I think it would be a mistake to use that tag, given they also sell clothes, electrical items, etc. They don’t sell food so it can’t be a supermarket, and neither are they a variety_store. Maybe not the same as traditional department_store, but it’s the best tag IMO. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Ddepartment_store

I did notice three of the Asda Living stores you edited were previously tagged as a department_store, including this one: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/263697069/history

Another had no shop tag at all. Two were also changed from “household” but that’s not really a synonym: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/139845207/history

Generally if the Bing imagery is very clear and the same as the ESRI (clarity) background, then those two will be from around 2012. Most of the ESRI or Maxar imagery I’ve seen is more recent, along with the updated but lesser quality Bing imagery, some even from 2018 or 2019.

You can usually work out from various areas of stages of construction areas and new developments which is newer, though if in doubt add a note to the map.

Also bear in mind that ESRI or Maxar is usually slightly out of alignment with Bing so needs to be offset before editing.

Don’t know about JOSM but in the iD editor you can do Ctrl + Shift + B and it shows a box with the imagery date, though this only works for the two ESRI sources.

Regarding Asda Living stores - a search for shop=* and name="Asda Living" in uk finds 30 objects, however there are some differing values for shop. Houseware x20, department_store x7, furntiture x2, clothes x1 - so these should be standardised.

I’m in Scotland where we seem to only have one Asda Living store so haven’t visited one, but from the descriptions online it seems to be their non-food range - perhaps the wider ranging department_store is more appropriate than houseware?