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Useless data that only clutters the map and often geometrically wrong

To Andy; I agree with you as stated in my “Solution”. I am taking about swimming/rafting chutes and tree top walks, etc. in amusement parks being mapped as paths: Surely they are redundant as are the white lines on a tennis court.

To althio: You are right to mention bridges and culverts, etc.

That blade of grass is coming back to haunt us.

Well, it certainly looks lovely, but how useful is it

OSM: Why can't contributors check/correct their own work!

All the above comments are correct (even the one about spelling, but that does not bother me at all). Using OSMI and Bing I do a lot of correcting and when I see a consistent error being made I do contact the pertinent contributor (with a link to OSMI): Only about 5% reply and in these cases most are thankful for the information.

A message of mine looked like this.

On 2016-02-13 15:53:19 UTC Little Brother wrote:

Link

http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=geometry&lon=-102.39286&lat=31.85214&zoom=15&opacity=0.53&overlays=self_intersection_ways,self_intersection_points

This is not the correct method for entering a bus route. See:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:route#Road_routes

Have fun

Thank your for letting me know. I will go in and correct

In this case the contributor did reply but check the date (Feb.2016) and the link (today): Nothing has been done. Question: Should I remove the data?

ازاى تتخلصى من حشرات البيت

Spam. Don’t look at it

OSM: Why can't contributors check/correct their own work!

To Marián Kyral.

You are exactly right of course. I use JOSM exclusively with its useful error detection capability. I have not checked it but I suspect that most errors are generated using Potlach and ID. JOSM is so easy to use. It makes me wonder why a lot of contributors don’t graduate to it.

Osmand Live Review (Test mit Osmand+ Android)

Sounds great, but why should I pay for the data I have collected? Maybe OSMAnd should pay me!

Field Mapping Setup

You guys are amazing. I only wish I was young enough to join you. I have done some HOT tasks in Africa but I admit I was not to proud of our mutual efforts. Many entries were overrated, especially the potential helicopter landing pads which were defined with no knowledge of the incline and in addition were tagged in a misleading way (can’t remember what that was).

If you guys can correct that data that will be really good and thank you for motivating the locals: They are the best source!

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TO phillip2106

There is an OSM Forum specially made for asking questions such as yours. Your specific question has probably been asked many times which of course is a good thing.

Here is the link:

https://help.openstreetmap.org/

Belgian Mappers of the Month: Ruben & Josefien

About those “self-made OpenStreetMap badges”

What a brilliant idea. Attach one of those to your clothing would surely reduce the number of funny looks/questions you get from the locals. We all experience them.

Let me tell you a hilarious way that one OSM contributor uses: He takes his wife along in a wheelchair and explains his strange OSM data collecting activities with something like this:

My wife has an early stage of dementia and this is my way of helping her.

It works!

Categorising paths

Hello Rostranimin. Thanks for the reply. I can understand now that such information may be of importance to the mapmaker providing a specific map for a specific purpose, e.g. wheelchair users.

So I am not contra your proposal but I myself would not contribute any of your suggested attributes to the database. That is purely the case because I cannot see any usage for them in my areas of influence.

I wish you luck with your proposed feature.

Categorising paths

I sometimes think that we overdo our contributions so allow me to say why:

I am 75 years old and am still rambling around collecting data for OSM: It gives me something sensible to do as my wife does the housework and gardening.

Can you remember paper maps (such as Ordnance Survey)?

How were path attributes in these paper maps describe?

Answer: Mostly, not at all!

I assume that I am writing this for ramblers that regularly walk through fields, forests, etc. I do so 2-3 times a week and all I do in addition to picking a route and a restaurant (OSM in its present form fulfills these specifications admirably) is to consider the present weather conditions and the rainfall of the past few days and equip myself accordingly.

So I ask you:

Do you really think that hikers will look for the path attributes that you have suggested when planing their tour?

IMHO the only attribute that is required and then only in geographical areas where it is required is the SAC SCALE.

The wheelchair=no should be a default for paths and therefore not necessary.

NOTE:

I know that we have the combination highway=path / foot=designated / bicycle=designated

which I don’t like.

Why not highway=footway / bicycle=designated / segregated=yes/no?

I quite understand that others contributors will disagree with me, so I ask the following question:

What do the users of OSM data think?

Categorising paths

I sometimes think that we overdo our contributions so allow to say why:

I am 75 years old and am still rambling around collecting data for OSM: It gives me something sensible to do as my wife does the housework and gardening.

Can you remember paper maps (such as Ordnance Survey)?

How were path attributes in these paper maps describe?

Answer: Mostly, not at all!

I assume that I am writing this for ramblers that regularly walk through fields, forests, etc. I do so 2-3 times a week and all I do in addition to picking a route and a restaurant (OSM in its present form fulfills these specifications admirably) is to consider the present weather conditions and the rainfall of the past few days and equip myself accordingly.

So I ask you:

Do you really think that hikers will look for the path attributes that you have suggested when planing their tour?

IMHO the only attribute that is required and then only in geographical areas where it is required is the SAC SCALE.

The wheelchair=no should be a default for paths and therefore not necessary.

NOTE:

I know that we have the combination highway=path / foot=designated / bicycle=designated

which I don’t like.

Why not highway=footway / bicycle=designated / segregated=yes/no?

I quite understand that others contributors will disagree with me, so I ask the following question:

What do the users of OSM data think?

Hi Dear Friend Plz Read

Spam: Eliminate

Learn-a-tag: highway=escape

I hope I am not being to cynical by pointing out that the tag will probably never be used. Can you imagine any driver careering down a hill with no brakes and looking at any map for an escape lane. However, having now been cynical, it is part of the highway system so it should be mapped. Well done for pointing out this highway feature!

From the "steps to happiness series": thanking

I am not quite sure whether you complaing or are really thankful for these deficits.

Single object changesets. Some edits are done by people on the go. e.g. They go to a venue, note the attributes and just add it to the data base: Nothing wrong there! Some people correct the data using OSMI: Better here to upload one correcton at a time in case the new entry is wrong and has to be reversed.

Objects only with name. Is it not better to have this data which can then be improved upon by a user with local knowledge. I agree a note would be better but that is not the issue here.

Changesets without comments. I think comments should be mandatory. Is that what you want?

In JOSM you cannot delete a relation without a warning: I don’t know about other editors! I can see your point on modifying relations (and multipolygons), however. An alert would be nice.