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Board Game Cafe - amenity=* tag needed?

Posted by mbeyerle on 10 October 2023 in English.

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Board_game_caf%C3%A9

How would you tag a board game cafe? The main attraction is the ability to ‘rent’ a table and play a variety of board games offered by the establishment. Oftentimes these places will sell cafe-type drinks and sometimes alcoholic drinks and food.

In my opinion, “amenity=cafe” and “amenity=pub” are not sufficiently descriptive because the implication is that the primary use is a cafe or pub, respectively. Adding a tag like sport=board_games or board_game=yes, while helpful, only indicate the availability of board games for play at a venue, but do not address the underlying issue that the primary use of the establishment is to play games not consume coffee or libations.

Indicating that given beverages are available for sale or consumption at a given establishment is an important feature on OSM, as map users frequently desire to buy or consume a specific drink. In my opinion, the wiki page for this key does not adequately describe the options a consumer faces when purchasing a specific beverage. Specifically, there’s no clear way to bifurcate drinks sold as a retail item (e.g., “on the shelf”) versus those served for consumption within an establishment.

Would mappers be willing to join the discussion on the talk page to begin the process for improving the usability of this tag?

Personally, my suggestions include:
1. clarifying the usage of the key “drink:xyz=” overall in the first sentence of the page
2. (re)adding the key “drink:xyz=retail”
3. clarifying the definition of “drink:xyz=bottled”
4. suggesting the key “drink:xyz=retail” or “drink:xyz=bottled” be used in place of “drink:xyz=takeaway”

Thanks for taking a look and joining the discussion and weighing in regarding the appropriate way to map establishments serving or selling given beverages.

key:drink wiki page
key:drink talk page

For example, when I go to tag the surface of a way, “paved” and “unpaved” should not be suggested tags (despite their frequent use), since they’re inherently less informative than more granular tags such as “asphalt,” “concrete,” “gravel,” or “compacted.” I think this is a critical improvement that would greatly improve map quality in the future with at basically no cost. I have no involvement in the development and maintained of iD, but in my opinion, removing poor tag suggestions should be a priority.

Another thought is to help mappers distinguish objects that are similar but not identical, such as bleachers vs. grandstands.

Finally, the wiki should be updated in certain places to better accommodate language translation differences. An example of this is a “give box,” which I’ve only heard referred to as a donation “collection site” or “dropoff location” in the United States.

Indicating Roads Unsafe for Cyclists

Posted by mbeyerle on 31 October 2019 in English.

From what I can tell, OpenStreetMap lacks a tag allowing mappers to mark (yes, subjectively) roads that are unsafe for cyclists. In my opinion, this feature really ought to be added. It’s the last feature that’s needed for services like Komoot to actually become highly useful.

In State College, North Atherton Street is almost always too busy for cyclists; as such it’s generally avoided.

This has been discussed previously, but no official answer has arisen. It behooves OSM to come up with a fix to this problem.

What do you recommend with regard to adding this tag?