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Pozorování přírody ve městě

Kdybyste chtěli použít “modifikovaný tasking manager”, můžu podle potřeb upravit https://damn-project.org/

Nejsem si ale jistý, jestli se TM úplně hodí pro sbírání dat – TM slouží pro zamykání konkrétní oblastí, aby na oblasti v krátkodobém horizontu nepracovalo více lidí najednou.

(Vytvoření více oblastí na základě seznamu bodů, nikoli čtverců, je ale jednoduchá změna.)

Should we have different layers in OpenStreetMap editors?

I think it’s more about using different editors, different settings and of course education of new mappers, not about the database schema…

About the YEKA Street “Mapping Workshop 2023” (translated)

It is nice to read about a community success. I enjoyed it, too. Thank you for the translation.

Missing Maps Mapathons Core Team

Thank you for your positive comments. It is nice to see that I am not alone in these thoughts. You probably do not hear this too often (maybe because you are busy telling others), so – you are doing a great job. You are making the world a better place. Thank you. Please, keep up the good work.

I wrote a sort of retrospective diary and did not mention the thing I am most proud of (and had nothing to do with). Let me correct that little mistake in this comment. What I find most fascinating about Missing Maps CZ & SK is that there are mapathons not only in Prague. There are regular mapathons in other cities, too! I am sure the stories of Radim and Daniel (Brno), Antonin (Olomouc) and Milo (all of Slovakia, actually) would be even more inspiring, especially because they could talk about real experiences organizing mapathons without access to exclusive locations, an established core team or both.

Unifying codebase of the damn web clients

Thank you for suggestion. However, I will leave the colors for contributors. I am not going to fight that fight :)

The third year of the Divide and map. Now.

Nice! Let me know if I can help somehow :)

Tanga Building Footprints Import

I wrote about how the damn project could be used for the Tanga Buliding Footprints Import last year. I am grateful for any kind of testing of the damn project.

Useful plugins in JOSM (to be continued)

Small note about the buildings_tool: you may draw circle buildings with that plugin, too. Switch between circle buildings by Alt + Z and rectangular buildings by Alt + R.

You may be also interested in the mapathoner plugin: https://qeef.gitlab.io/mapathoner/ but it depends on the use-case.

Potential HOT tasking manager improvements to help new and existing contributors collaborate more effectively

I have more and more feeling that HOT is for OpenStreetMap what GitHub is for git. It is a shame.

UX/UI Concept: Your Business on the Map

It would be something outside of OSM, not directly on OSM.

Yes.

But I don’t see why one thing leads to the other.

In my opinion, this would suite an owner because an owner doesn’t need to understand OSM from the contributor perspective. Moreover, OSM would be free from “spammed” notes. There will be some kind of buffer that enables owners sending information in a format they understand, then maybe automatically process the information, and create the list of POIs to import for mappers in a format the mappers understand.

I believe the first this we should think about is how a hypothethic shop owner even learns about OSM and these tools to add their business. Most people don’t know of us.

You are completely right but I don’t think I’m able to help with that.

UX/UI Concept: Your Business on the Map

The point is to strictly differ between an owner and an OSM contributor.

Why? If anyone can edit all of the map, without any restrictions, why make that distinction?

I can imagine a situation when an owner wants his company in OSM but doesn’t want to become an OSM contributor. In other words, an owner wants to improve OSM but only by adding his own business, without the hassle of learning how to do that. I believe this diary is about such an use-case.

I should point out all the solutions are WWW based, too.

Oh I didn’t realize that was the point. But I still fail to see the connection between being a website and SEOs coming to waste mappers’ time. Wouldn’t the same happen if they were made to send the details by SMS or email?

From onosm.org GitHub: > The result is written to an anonymous OpenStreetMap Note.

So in fact ONOSM exploits (I’m not sure this is right wording, I don’t mean it necessary in a negative connotation,) anonymous notes where should be the POI mapping. My proposed workflow keeps track of POIs in a separated database that can be used as the dataset to import, keeping not-yet-ready data apart from the OSM.

SMS and email are just other sources besides the WWW. It should be trivial, from the architecture perspective, to extend support for bots for any chat platform (IRC, Matrix, Slack, Discord, …) or even add call/voice messages processing (GSM, SIP, Skype, …)

UX/UI Concept: Your Business on the Map

All the solutions here needs OSM account

Not really I think. The editor can have an account of its own for anonymous users.

The point is to strictly differ between an owner and an OSM contributor.

What’s the difference from https://www.onosm.org ?

I should point out all the solutions are WWW based, too. BTW, see the TomH’s comment.

UX/UI Concept: Your Business on the Map

How do you get an owner to submit their business?

That’s the question. All the solutions here needs OSM account which makes the onwner also an OSM contributor.

Why it wouldn’t be possible to submit their business by email? Or SMS? Ideally localised? Then, the received messages would became issues, and the list of issues possible source for POI import.

Of course, we can discuss about automatic processing of received messages, but that’s the second round.

cleaning up after a task manager task

Once you open it in JOSM, make sure you keep it in a separate layer apart from the OSM data

I tested it with imported GeoJSON file and it looks like that right click on new layer and Convert to GPX layer does the trick.

Johnwhelan: thanks for the inspiration, I wrote the similar diary for the Divide and map. Now.

cleaning up after a task manager task

Hi Johnwhelan, just for you information, Mike’s scripts are available in the mapathoner plugin, too. It’s just a simplification of running the scripts.

2 years of OSM: What I have done at OpenStreetMap in the last year

Thanks for the feedback. It was probably our bad communication, because since the beginning of the change, the mappy client was available. Therefore, I can’t agree that the change was radical.

The split of web client to light, panel, and mappy was, as you said, according to the DAMN project philosophy – make one client for particular group of mappers. Light and panel are text-based, but mappy is map-based with manual square lock workflow.

Anyway, I’m really glad you found your way to work efficiently. Thanks again for the feedback and keep mapping!

2 anos de OSM: O que eu fiz no OpenStreetMap no ultimo ano

Please, see my comment under the English version. This kind of double posting is bad idea.

2 years of OSM: What I have done at OpenStreetMap in the last year

Hi Gustavo, the author of the damn project here. Could you, please, elaborate on what you mean by “… after DAMN totally changed the way we work …”? I would like to avoid frustration of the mappers using the damn project.

Anyway, thank you for your hard work. The world is a little bit better place because of the guys like you.

Get inspired by mapping highways' radars and mirrors

Hi trigpoint,

highways radars are https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Tag:highway%3Dspeed_display and mirrors are https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dtraffic_mirror.

The problem this diary discuss is mapping of highway-like areas.

simplifying reception of the OSMWeekly newsletter

Uh, I though that Subscribe to weeklyOSM via Email will send the content of the page. (I just subscribed, so I will see next week.)

I am also subscribed to talk mailing list, where only announcement about new weekly is posted with no content. (I understand that is not a solution for you.)