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Hi everyone. I’m trying to map a sign that says that there are no motor vehicles allowed.

Photo of sign described below

The sign says motor vehicles are not allowed between 8pm-midnight on Fridays, Saturdays, and the day before a bank or public holiday.

Additionally, they are not allowed between midnight and 5.30am on Saturdays, Sundays and bank and public holidays.

I want to map this using the motor_vehicle:conditional to show that they are not allowed in these times.

In practice this means they’re not allowed:

Friday: 20:00-24:00. Saturday: 00:00-05:30; 20:00-24:00. Sunday: 00:00-05:30. Day before public holiday: 20:00-24:00. Public holiday: 00:00-05:30.

The difficulty arises where a public holiday or day before a public holiday also falls on one of the other days.

E.g. on Good Friday, the road would still be closed between 20:00-24:00 as normal, but should also follow the public holiday times of 00:00-05:30 in addition to rather than instead of the regular Friday times.

This is what I tried: PH -1 day 20:00-24:00; Sa 00:00-05:30,20:00-24:00; Su,PH 00:00-05:30; Fr 20:00-24:00

But https://openingh.openstreetmap.de/evaluation_tool/ shows that the rules furthest to the right override the previous rules. So putting Friday at the end means any public holiday that falls on a Friday gets the regular Friday times. Putting the PH times at the end gives the reverse issue.

Anyone got a solution?

LGBT+ crossings - how to map?

Posted by xyzl on 7 July 2021 in English.

A number of areas in the UK (and the world) have painted crossings in LGBT+ pride rainbow colours to support LGBT+ rights.

In the UK at least, these are often referred to as ‘rainbow crossings’. They don’t always look the same, with some using different colours/pride flags.

Image of two rainbow pedestrian crossings next to each other with a pedestrian island separating them, the lines of colours are oriented so that they are horizontal, similar to an LGBT flag, from the point-of-view of a driver, or vertical to someone crossing the street Image of rainbow crossing by Matt Brown used under Creative Commons CC-BY-2.0 license.

Here’s a recent example from Bristol, a city in the South West of England: https://www.bristol247.com/lgbtq/news-lgbtq/bristol-gets-its-first-rainbow-crossing/ .

Here’s two in a London borough: https://www.richmond.gov.uk/first_rainbow_crossings_unveiled

and another: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-51446121

one at Surrey University: https://my.surrey.ac.uk/news/introducing-our-new-rainbow-crossing

And here’s one in New Zealand - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuba_Street_rainbow_crossing

In the UK, these seem to usually be (maybe always?) regular button-operated controlled crossings with traffic lights, just with LGBT+ rainbow paint where the crossing is.

There is some talk from 2019 here https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Key:lgbtq on how to map these, but I’m not sure it was very definitive and I’m not sure I’m a fan of it - these crossings are a known ‘thing’, so to me it seems clunky to tag it as artwork each time.

What are everyones thoughts?

How do we map areas that can be walked over but are not strictly a path?

For example, there may be a park or a green with grass that has no restriction on whether or not you can walk over it, but also has no path on it either. How do we map this so that routers could give walking directions over it, but without mapping a path that isn’t actually there?