Changeset: 119721614
non-public
Closed by John Minelli
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changesets_count | 1 |
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created_by | iD 2.20.4 |
host | https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit |
imagery_used | CyclOSM |
locale | en-GB |
resolved:crossing_ways:highway-waterway | 2 |
Discussion
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Comment from eerib
Hello,
The features you deleted were previously discussed in a recent changeset. I've linked that changeset below so you can read through the discussion.https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/118919846#map=16/49.3794/-123.2515
I've reverted your changeset as a result. If you disagree with this action, I encourage you to contact the Data Working Group to resolve the dispute.
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Comment from eerib
Hello John,
I noticed you deleted the features in the area again over a few different changesets. Perhaps you may not have seen my previous comment so I'm going to leave another here and send you a message.
I'm going to go into detail on why the trail should stay in case you're unfamiliar with OpenStreetMap. OpenStreetMap has a "Ground truth" policy, which means features are mapped as they are on the ground, even if an outside group does not want them mapped. There are a few noted exceptions to this policy, including indigenous sacred sites, specific endangered species locations, and specific areas of safety concern. This trail is heavily used by multiple groups, including mountain bikers, hikers, trail runners, Geocachers, and peak baggers to name a few. In addition, none of the exceptions apply. That is why the trail should stay on the map.
Further, the OSM US Trails Working Group recommends that "Unofficial, unmaintained trails, renegade trails, and social trails" should be kept on the map for emergency service groups, junction navigation, and because the trail will just be added later by someone else but possibly with less information.
The relevant links for the information I've talked about is here:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ground_truth
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Limitations_on_mapping_private_information#Other_Reasons_not_to_Map
https://www.openstreetmap.us/2021/12/osmus-trails-working-group
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_States/Trails_Working_Group
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States/Trail_Access_ProjectLet me know if you agree with my interpretation of the OSM policies and what steps you would like to take going forward.
Cheers, eerib
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Comment from marczoutendijk_repair
This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 119965285 where the changeset comment is: DWG revert for previously discussed private trails
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Comment from EP_Repair
This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 124780086 where the changeset comment is: revert organized attempts to subvert trail networks see https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/6216
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