Changeset: 122121591
Removed buildings where it now looks like a parking lot. Added Flatbush African Burial Ground point. Edited 2 other buildings to reflect current sizes.
Closed by librarian11
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changesets_count | 1 |
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created_by | iD 2.21.0 |
host | https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit |
imagery_used | Bing Maps Aerial |
locale | en |
review_requested | yes |
Discussion
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Comment from MxxCon
Hello.
You added a node for a graveyard, however satellite imagery doesn't show such a thing there.
Could you please elaborate on that?
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Comment from librarian11
A community group is working to get the site officially recognized: https://www.flatbushafricanburialground.org/africanburialgroundpast
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Comment from MxxCon
I've seen that site from your tags. However, OSM is about mapping what's out there in the world _now_. From what I can see on satellite imagery, there are no signs left of that cemetery/graveyard. If there are any signs, plaques, monuments or other physical things present around that location, you are most welcome to map them. However, a cemetery or a graveyard that existed at some point in the past but not any more would be more suitable for https://openhistoricalmap.org rather than OSM.
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Comment from librarian11
There is evidence that people are buried there _now_. There is a movement surrounding properly honoring the site today in the present. I will take a look at the historical site you mentioned and check into how OSM views local knowledge.
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Comment from librarian11
Hello again. I should have included this: https://www1.nyc.gov/site/hpd/services-and-information/fabg.page
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Comment from MxxCon
You can map this organization itself with a node at their official address.
And once there's a boundary for that graveyard, it'd great to map it as well.
But while there's nothing on the ground to define this feature, it's misleading to map it. You can read about these concepts that at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice#Map_what's_on_the_ground and https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Any_tags_you_like#What_not_to_map
Also please note that cemetery and graveyard have separate meanings in OSM.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dgrave_yard
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dcemetery -
Comment from MxxCon
That nyc.org page states that there's consideration of building a housing on that site and some sort of memorial. So once those features are there(even once construction starts), it'd be great to add them to OSM.
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Comment from librarian11
Thanks for the tips. $4M was promised to the project: https://twitter.com/CMMathieuEugene/status/1458893021760696324. I will study up on the definitions and circle back.
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Comment from MxxCon
If you have any questions, feel free to ask. You can also join osm US Slack server and/or Discord server if you prefer communicating that way.
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