Changeset: 123169632
created area barriers for parking lots, modified the alignment of road ways, and adjusted area perimeters
Closed by HopeHarry
Tags
changesets_count | 1 |
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created_by | iD 2.21.1 |
host | https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit |
ideditor:walkthrough_completed | yes |
ideditor:walkthrough_progress | welcome;navigation;point;area;line;building;startEditing |
ideditor:walkthrough_started | yes |
imagery_used | Bing Maps Aerial |
locale | en |
Discussion
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Comment from kcnorthlander42
Why are there so many changes on a single submission, and all unrelated? This looks very suspicious.
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Comment from SekeRob
Turbopass reveals there's these many parkings in Eugene/California and then also few on Nantucket island on the east coast AND one in Sicily, Italy Anyone who can wrap the head pan around this? WHY in the first edit did this have to be and for every mapper in between to see this? Welcome, and is there Hope, Harry, you wont do this again on such a large geographical spread?
caio from Italy
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Comment from b-jazz
People need to stop blaming the users for edits like this. Yes, it is inconvenient, but get over it, it happens. Pressure the tools to put up roadblocks when someone tries to create a changeset that is this large. Especially when it is a new user doing it. Let's stop criticizing new users and start criticizing the maintainers of iD/JOSM/etc.
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Comment from Mundilfari
I second what b-jazz says.
To me, the only thing more annoying than world-spanning edits messing with review filters, is world-spanning edits with dozens of comments that make it look like there's some weird-ass controversy going on, when all it really is is just the same (handful of people's) mimimi over and over and over again...
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Comment from SekeRob
To close off this descending conversation, many times communicated as comment to large geographical area covering edit sets, sharing link to the OSM wiki page discussing the 'keeping it small' and the reason, not mentioning that eventually it will attract mini mimimi inserts too.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Changeset See sub topic
"Geographical size of changesets: General recommendation: changesets should be local."The here and now is, that it's been discussed at the highest programmer levels and no technical solution has been found. A question of awareness.. If anyone has one, please contribute.
have a nice day.
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Comment from b-jazz
> no technical solution has been found
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOTyUfOHgas
Seems pretty easy to me. Editors could simply have a feature that pops up a warning when someone is about to submit a globe-spanning changeset. I submitted a changeset in my early days that spanned the globe. I didn't realize it was a problem. I submitted one in the recent past knowing full well that it shouldn't be done, but I didn't realize I was doing it. Just letting the user know they are about to make one would go a LONG way to solving the problem.
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Comment from Mundilfari
> Just letting the user know they are about to make one would go a LONG way to solving the problem.
Precisely. If the individuals getting super offended by huge change sets just used half the time they use to flame beginners who don't know any better (or people who accidentally uploaded a huge change set) to push for solutions within the editors, we'd probably be much further along.
I had pitched a similar idea in another one of these flame wars almost a year ago. Surprisingly enough (or not), none of the individuals who tend to complain about huge change sets loudly and frequently (and, often on the borderline of just being rude) appeared to have any interest in pushing for any of that in any editor whatsoever. Go figure.
It just doesn't look like most the complainers actually care too much for a solution, but more like they're looking for a place to vent (troll?).@SekeRob - curious about your wiki-edit on this matter - would you mind adding a sentence or two on how one would achieve that in JOSM?
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