Changeset: 22013139
updated WES relation members
Closed by Grant Humphries
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created_by | JOSM/1.5 (7000 en) |
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source | trimet |
Discussion
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Comment from Peter Dobratz
I'm thinking about how to update this route relation to use the new public transport schema.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Public_Transport
There would be 2 route relations for this: 1 for each direction. The route relations would have the stops (role of "stop") and platforms (role of "platform") interleaved in the order that they occur followed by the Ways in order that represent the rails that the the route traverses (role is empty).
These 2 route relations would then be added to a relation of type route_master.
What would be missing from what's currently there are the members with role "yard", "yard access", and "siding." Is it okay with you if these get removed from the route relation for the train route?
I can't find anything on the wiki that supports the current tagging with those roles.
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Comment from Grant Humphries
I need some way to identify all of the tracks that are used by WES trains. In the case of the yard it shouldn't be a problem to remove those features from the relation because their 'name' tag identifies them as being a part of WES. However there are a couple of cases where removing siding-type tracks would be problematic for me: This is one example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/124601808 I can't really put the name 'WES' on that track because it primarily part of the Portland and Western Railroad and if it can't be in the WES relation I don't know how to identify it. Maybe through the creation of a third relation for siding, etc. that is part of the master relation?
Thanks taking the time to ask me about this btw and if you'd be willing to give me a heads up if you go ahead and make changes it would be much appreciated, as I have some code that relies on the WES relation that I'll need to adjust.
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Comment from Peter Dobratz
I'm not in a huge rush to change the tagging and I'm still trying to figure out exactly how this should be tagged.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenRailwayMap/Tagging#Railway_lines
It looks like you can actually have 3 separate types of route relations (type=route) for railways: route=tracks, route=railway, route=train.
However, I'm not sure that the tracks you are looking for would be in any of the route relations. route=tracks and route=railway state that "Only the mainline should be included, with sidings and spurs being excluded." The route=train only includes Ways that the train actually travels on during it's normal service between the first and last stop.
As detailed as the OpenRailWayMap Tagging page is, it doesn't appear that they have thought of a way to put spurs and sidings into a route relation.
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Comment from pdxrider
Hi guys, just an update. At least a year ago, Madeline Steele in changeset 40072273 removed the yard/siding members from the relation. "trimet:auxiliary=WES" was added to those ways so they could be associated with WES. The relation is ready to be converted to public_transport v2 format. Just warning you guys in case that happens.
- Portland and Western Railroad (277934142), v1
- Portland and Western Railroad (277934149), v1
- Portland and Western Railroad (123528911), v4
- Portland and Western Railroad (124660220), v3
- Portland and Western Railroad (48409100), v11
- Portland and Western Railroad (124660219), v3
- Portland and Western Railroad (48409111), v5
- Portland and Western Railroad (124466382), v2
- Portland and Western Railroad (5389884), v38
- Portland and Western Railroad (124601795), v4
- Southwest Nod Lane (5392295), v12
- Westside Express Service (124660225), v4
- Westside Express Service (124601825), v5
- Westside Express Service (124601835), v5
- Westside Express Service (124601838), v4
- Westside Express Service (27423337), v11
- Westside Express Service (53648601), v13
- Westside Express Service (69348527), v10
- 108522507, v3
- 113340661, v3
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