Changeset: 33843727
NE Hants - removed private tag from PROW
Closed by Sailor Steve
Tags
created_by | JOSM/1.5 (8677 en_GB) |
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source | Survey, Bing |
Discussion
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Comment from jpennycook
Hello Sailor_Steve.
I see you've removed access=private and tracktype=grade2 from the track https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/174916757
My sat nav/journey planner assumes that highway=track is open to all, unless otherwise specified, hence access=private/foot=designated is better than a long list of xxx=no. It also uses tracktype on tracks and bridleways to see if the way is suitable for bicycles. Removing access=private and the tracktype from a track makes the track very attractive to the journey planner, and it sends me down this Public Footpath when I'm on my bike, when this is not allowed. Because of this, I'm going to add the tracktype and access back in.Jon
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Comment from jpennycook
Apologies - I see you didn't remove tracktype from this section, but the point on access is still valid.
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Comment from Sailor Steve
Hi Jon,
Access=private tag on PROW creates rendering and routing problems -
OSM maps render these ways as access no/private, indistinguishable from a genuine private way
OSMAnd refuses to route via ways with this tag
The top level tag access=private is defined as no access without individual permission, whereas access=yes shows a right of way exists, so it's far better to work down from this with negatives. Often it's only necessary to use vehicle=private so that foot/bike/horse are included under yes for bridleways.
Steve
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Comment from SomeoneElse
In case anyone's not aware, there was previous discussion about some of these tagging questions at https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/37777/rights-of-way-england-and-wales and https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/41053/prow-tagging-england-wales . It's actually probably better suited to general discussion on the mailing list where everyone can put their three-pennorth in.
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