Changeset: 41676348
Added Inuktitut to the node of Iqaluit, and reclassified roads.
Closed by Geography Canada
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Discussion
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Comment from SomeoneElse
Did you discuss the naming change for http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/96223684/history on the talk-ca list like you were asked to last time you made these sorts of changes?
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Comment from Geography Canada
No, but seeing that you were okay with adding Tigrinya to Asmara, maybe I thought you would be okay with me adding Inuktitut to Iqaluit (over 69% of people in Nunavut speak Inuktitut).
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Comment from SomeoneElse
Which part of pnorman's comments on https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/40333070 did you not understand?
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Comment from Geography Canada
That was a country name, not a city!
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Comment from SomeoneElse
It's the same issue though - you're choosing to shove together two different languages into one name field. The earlier changeset discussion comment says " The name=* tag should only have one name in it.".
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Comment from Geography Canada
You were okay with this: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/41545650. You say: "it's changing the name of http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/321732075/history from English to Amharic (which may make sense of course). What I did here is essentially the same thing - the main local language is Inuktitut!
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Comment from Geography Canada
Oh okay. I will delete the English.
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Comment from Geography Canada
Fixed: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/41692017. However, note the same thing is happening in Sudan (Arabic and English in one name= tag).
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Comment from SomeoneElse
Re using Inuktitut rather than English - I'd definitely discuss it on talk-ca. A number of countries have decided to use a "non-local" name in the name tag to avoid confusion or conflict (India's an example, as PlaneMad has said to you on another changeset discussion).
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Comment from Geography Canada
I don't think there would be a conflict here. There are very few people that pay attention to Iqaluit on OSM.
Over 69 percent of people in Nunavut speak Inuktitut. Inuktitut is official in Nunavut.
I could raise the problem on the forum.
Besides, just the city name's (not the roads) in Inuktitut. The "name:en" tag is there. There is no need for conflict.
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Comment from SomeoneElse
Given what happened last time when people complained, I'd definitely raise it on the talk-ca list. I wouldn't bother with the Canadian forum because that seems to be ignored by most Canadian mappers.
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Comment from Geography Canada
That was about the country name, which actually gets attention. I think people would agree with replacing English with Inuktitut. Or else it would've been reverted by now.
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Comment from Geography Canada
I will look into the talk-ca list.
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Comment from Geography Canada
Thanks for the help! It is greatly appreciated.
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Comment from Rps333
There needs to be more discussion on talk-ca!
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Comment from scruss
Thing is, few (if any) people call it “ᐃᖅᐊᓗᑦ Iqaluit”. It's either ᐃᖅᐊᓗᑦ *or* Iqaluit. As the node has both name:en and name:iu tags, we should pick _one_. Having both is wrong.
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Comment from Geography Canada
Someone added "Iqaluit" in, after I removed it. It was simply "ᐃᖅᐊᓗᑦ".
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