Changeset: 48762009
Removed boundary for Town "Areley Kings".
Closed by Martin Wynne
Tags
build | 2.5-7-gbd74430 |
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created_by | Potlatch 2 |
version | 2.5 |
Discussion
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Comment from Colin Smale
Hi Martin,
why did you remove this boundary? -
Comment from Martin Wynne
Hi,
There is no "Town" called Areley Kings. It is a civil parish within the town of Stourport-on-Severn, which is part of the District of Wyre Forest. The administrative boundaries of the parish are already shown on OSM.
The boundary which I removed was wrong in many places, for example omitting Half-Crown Wood and other non-residential parts of the parish.
Whoever added that boundary was I think trying to mark the residential area. I can add that back if you think it is important to have a single large boundary for the residential area within Areley Kings. Generally I find it easier to create smaller specific areas of housing, which I was intending to do in due course.
It's my home area, so I know it well and have gradually been adding detail over the last few weeks.
regards,
Martin.
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Comment from Colin Smale
Hi Martin,
In OSM a "place" is often ill-defined, especially in the UK where there are no formal boundaries for "a named area". There are of course admin boundaries, but they often bear no relationship to the names of the places they contain. The "place" is more like where people identify with if you were to ask them "where do you live" or "where are we now". Even civil parishes contain multiple settlements and swathes of "no mans land" in between. So a "place" area would be appropriate for Areley Kings if it has a clear identity amongst its inhabitants (I think that is clear) and you could take a good punt at where the limits would be. The boundary may or may not coincide with the administrative boundaries... "Places" are used a lot in geocoding. I really think you should consider restoring the place boundary... By the way, "town" in OSM is intended to indicate the size/importance of the settlement and not so much the legal status; this distinction is typical of the UK and is often misunderstood/ignored. You could possibly also make the case (you can judge this better than I can) that it is a suburb of Stourport.... -
Comment from Martin Wynne
Hi,
Thanks for the detailed reply. I will add an encompassing boundary for the area which most folks would regard as "Areley Kings", although it is not significantly different from the administrative boundary.
But I won't call it a "town" because no-one here does that. "Town" means the whole of Stourport-on-Severn. It is as you suggest a suburb, sometimes referred to as a "the Village" by older residents, although a visitor would not recognise it as a typical English village. It does have a "Village Hall" and a "Village Supermarket".
regards,
Martin.
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Comment from Colin Smale
Super, that sounds spot-on, thanks!
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Comment from Colin Smale
I have updated the civil parish of Astley and Dunley and I will fix a couple of others in the area in a minute.. I can't find any record of a Civil parish called "Areley Kings" though... It looks to be included in Stourport-on-Severn CP. Do you have any pointers?
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Comment from Martin Wynne
Sorry, I may have got that wrong. It definitely has a parish church (St Bartholomew's) and the parish boundary is the River Severn. That is also the boundary of the electoral wards for the Town Council. See: http://www.wyreforestdc.gov.uk/media/979858/Areley-Kings-Riverside-Ward-Polling-Districts.pdf
cheers,
Martin.
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