Changeset: 52480715
minor road additions
Closed by jamesks
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Discussion
- Comment from FreedSky
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Comment from Austin Zhu
Part of your changeset will be reverted, please comply with the tagging guidelines(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/China_tagging_guidelines).
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Comment from jamesks
Please let me know what the issue is. I am aligning tagging across the entire country - trying to fix regional and local inconstistances, and tagging according things that have no longer exist (e.g. old 'trunk' roads from the 1980s)
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Comment from Austin Zhu
It's G316. It should be tagged as trunk instead of primary.>_<
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Comment from jamesks
I just checked, since it is an old trunk road, almost the entire road is 'primary'. the 'Trunk' tag is used mainly for elevated roads in cities, and a few of the old 'G' network that have been upgraded.
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Comment from Austin Zhu
If it is currently a member of the G-network, then it should be tagged with trunk.
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Comment from jamesks
Almost none of the old G roads in China are tagged "trunk" - trunk is used for other things. Almost all the old network is replaced by the new G Expressways.
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Comment from Austin Zhu
I don't think so. All G-network roads should be tagged trunk, Chinese contributors have agreed on that. And they are not replaced. The expressways are new G roads with higher construction standards. There's nothing called old network. Trunk is mainly used for national road system (all G-nnn roads) and elevated roads in cities. Please see China tagging guidelines.
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Comment from jamesks
Should we label all the all G roads as part of the trunk network, even if they run alongside a much newer more important 'primary' route?
Maybe there should be an automatic changing of all G roads to 'trunk' tagging - there must be 10s of thousands, or does it need checking on the ground to see which ones are still operating as trunk routes, and which have been left undeveloped. -
Comment from Austin Zhu
My answer is yes. I don't know which primary route you are referring to, if that primary route connects several provinces, then I have to reconsider that issue. Currently, Freedsky and I am doing this changing manually ( because some G-routes have been diverted to newer roads). We hope foreigners can understand the situation in China and follow the guidelines, which would be a great support. Our tagging it as a trunk is similar to that of Japan. You know Japanese tag their national route trunk, so do we.
Another point is that things prescribed by agencies or departments should be tagged accordingly without exception. If it is a G-road, then just don't care its surroundings, tag it trunk. Including other factors will make things tough. Anyway, thank you for your contribution in China. -
Comment from jamesks
I understand, I have been tagging like in Germany and France, where when they built the expressways, the old national trunk routes were left with the same numbering system, but are often not developed, so are no longer the backbone of the national network, nor necessarily funded by central government. IN the UK it is different - we have a huge centrally funded network or conventional roads. IN china many of the original national trunk network has not been modernised, but a new parallel expressway built. Provincial governments build their own more modern road systems as well. My rule has always been - is this a road that one would still take to drive between provinces.
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