Changeset: 53165375
Serbian lint bot. Various fixes around name:sr, name:sr-Latn and wikidata/wikipedia links
Closed by Serbian OSM Lint bot
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created_by | osmapi/1.0.2 |
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tag | mechanical=yes |
Discussion
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Comment from Nakaner
Dear operator of the "Serbian OSM Lint bot",
could you please pause your bot and answer me the following question: When was the usage of this bot discussed on the Talk mailing list?
The usage of bots in OpenStreetMap is ruled by the Automated Edits Code of Conduct. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct
Best regards
Michael
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Comment from Serbian OSM Lint bot
Hi,
I pretty much followed code of conduct and bot wiki page can be found here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_edits/Serbian-OSM-Lint
There one can find reference to github, report, local community discussion and inner workings of the bot (it is not bot, BTW, just misfortunately named, it is script). Does this answers your questions? If you still think it should be discussed in mailing list, sure... BTW, I will not be running bot until min(your reply, 3 days) :) -
Comment from Nakaner
Hi,
thank you for the link and the coding. I already had a look into the source code. I appreciate the idea but I do not like one part of the work your bot does: If your bot is able to transliterate Cyrillic to Latin characters automatically, we do not need that feature of the bot at all. If some value can be derived from another with a very small error rate, data consumers can do it on their own and we do not have to bloat up the list of tags of a feature.
The Serbian community might have a different opinion but I am sure that this remark would have been raised on the Talk list if you had followed the guideline literally. Could you please revert your the edits of your bot and start the discussion on the Talk mailing list (if I started it, it would sound like an accusation)? Doing a full revert and re-running the bot is easier than writing a special revert script which fixes a single error of the bot.
You are free to rerun the (maybe modified) bot after you have proposed the bot on the Talk mailing list. That's the only missing piece.
My usual response would be in case like this wold be to revert all changesets without waiting any longer but it is only one point in a long list you forgot (or you maybe misinterpreted).
Best regards
Michael
PS Please pause don't run the bot until the discussion came to an end and people had enough time to respond (i.e. release of next WeeklyOSM which mentions it + a few days).
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Comment from Serbian OSM Lint bot
Hi,
So, there is 280 changesets and while I did look at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Change_rollback, it seems there is no easy way to do it (unless coding it again:D). Any help is appreciated!As for "name:sr-Latn", yes - it can be converted Cyrillic->Latin with 0% error rate, and it is there since I registered in ~2007 (ref: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/stalker), so I guess it has been discussed:D
As for the mailing list, thanks, I think I will skip that part and just abandon this script and my work altogether. I will ask local community to push through if they want. Rationale: I have very little free time, and I work in large company; I want to spend that time doing stuff I love, like programming and working for open-source and/or community, and least thing I need in my free time is (more) bureaucracy:) Nothing personal!
I do want to fix those 280 edits, though, I don't want to leave mess after me! Again - help is appreciated.
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Comment from Nakaner
Hi,
if I often use https://github.com/woodpeck/osm-revert-scripts but it is not advertised widely to avoid usage by users who should not be know what is possible.
Best regards
Michael
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Comment from Serbian OSM Lint bot
I will clean up France. If there is any other country to clean up, LMK!
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Comment from Serbian OSM Lint bot
Removing all "name:sr-Latn" tag that were added, here is first 100, will be done in next 2-5h (or more, depending how fast I see those [y/n] questions:)
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/53207917
Here is script that is doing this:
https://github.com/stalker314314/serbian-osm-lint/commit/655979541e9d65c212a0187e9f9014a9455a551dBTW, do I have to consult on Talk mailing list, if I use script only in country Serbia (not going across borders), just fixing internal Cyrillic-latinic problems?
Sorry once again for not honoring proper procedure
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Comment from Nakaner
Hi,
if your bot only edits in Serbia (according to the boundaries mapped in OSM), then no discussion on the Talk list is necessary. A discussion on that mailing list is only required if your edit covers multiple countries.
Best regards
Michael
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Comment from Serbian OSM Lint bot
Just to close on this, France reverted, thanks for noticing and help! Will stick to Serbia from now on
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Comment from woodpeck_repair
This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 53785191 where the changeset comment is: revert undiscussed mechanical edits - mostly automated name:sr adding, is_in adding, and changes to wiki link - by user 'Serbian OSM Lint bot
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