Changeset: 53387623
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Comment from SomeoneElse
Hello FreedSky,
Please use changeset comments for your edits http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/FreedSky/history explaining what you're changing and what the source is. Changes to national borders, especially where there are multiple claims, should be clearer so that all relevant parties have a chance to see and comment on the changes made.
A failure to do this may result in you being prevented from updating OpenStreetMap, so please do explain your changes.
Best Regards,
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Comment from SomeoneElse
你好FreedSky,
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/FreedSky/history说明您正在改变的内容以及来源是什么。 对国界的变化,特别是多方面的要求应该更清楚,所有有关方面都有机会看看和评论所做的改变。
OpenStreetMap,所以请说明你的修改。
最好的祝福,
Andy Townsend,代表OSM的数据工作组。 -
Comment from FreedSky
I made some revisions based on the boundary data and actual satellite imagery. There are some discrepancies in the frontier. Of course, my guess may be wrong, but I try my best to be neutral. My amendment to this large boundary Is based on this logic, so nothing to say, I do not like to write a reason. Sorry
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Comment from FreedSky
The source is based on the data from China's official mapping bureau, and their boundary data can be consulted for comparison.
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Comment from SomeoneElse
There are two potential issues with that:
1) What's the licences associated with "data from China's official mapping bureau"? Is it compatible with OpenStreetMap?
2) Where this impacts the boundaries of other states there could be problems. A number of states in this region have overlapping claims - OpenStreetMap should reflect the "on the ground" situation, not the claims on any one of those states. See https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/w/images/d/d8/DisputedTerritoriesInformation.pdf for the relevant policy. It's possible to create a map using OSM data that reflects any of these states' views - for example see https://openstreetmap.in/#6/34.325/76.025 for an example showing the boundaries in the region as viewed by India. It'd be perfectly possible to create something similar showing the Chinese view, but the boundaries in OSM itself should reflect the "line of control" on the ground, as best as that can be determined. -
Comment from FreedSky
My modification of the boundary is a feeling that some places are inconsistent with actual control. For example, some ravines are clearly in one of the countries and there are roads leading to them. If you don't think this is acceptable, you can discuss or return my editor.
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Comment from FreedSky
I also understand the specific conditions of the disputed areas between the two countries. Please rest assured that I will not arbitrarily modify the actual control boundary. As a user editing in the South China Sea, I know how tortured the boundary is.
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Comment from SomeoneElse
Thanks for the detailed explanation. Sometimes it might make sense to add something like that to your own changesets (because the changeset comment is limited to 256 characters) to explain the reasoning behind it.
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Comment from FreedSky
I also know that you are worried that, in fact, you can find that my series of boundary editors basically does not involve the disputed areas. It is just some of the borders identified by the existing two countries. The data used before OSM may be a bit error.
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