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Comment from will_p
Hi,
It's not clear to me why you have removed the grave yard from immediately around St Mary's Church (Weston on Trent)? That area is definitely part of the grave yard (my survey photos show lots of grave stones).
Thanks, Will -
Comment from TheNottingHum
I was wondering myself about this case. The southwestern area around the church indeed has a few stones which however appear even more historic than the northeastern part, which is separated by a wall, and has the more recent graves in rows.
The 'amenity' tag implies some current usage to me. Would historic=grave_yard be a better fit? -
Comment from will_p
The main south-west section of the churchyard, around the church itself, actually still has quite a lot of gravestones, it's just that many of them have been moved and placed against the perimeter walls and a few against the church itself. Looking at my photos I estimate there are still around 100 gravestones there.
I'm not convinced that using historic=grave_yard is a good idea. For one thing, amenity=grave_yard is a well established tag with 9168 uses in the UK, while historic=grave_yard has been used only once. The vast majority of old churchyards are already tagged using amenity=grave_yard and it is not uncommon for them to be similar to the situation here, where the gravestones have been 'tidied' to the sides. Second, in my view, amenity=grave_yard is intended to represent the consecrated ground around churches. This is usually green space with paths. I don't think it matters if the graves are historic or not.
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Comment from TheNottingHum
Thanks. I was not aware of the practice of tidying gravestones to the sides, I assumed these to be the original places, and the middle mostly cleared out.
Following your arguments, but considering that apparently the walled and the hedged part are historically different, I have now added the grave_yard to both.
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