Changeset: 55819663
Small Pond
Closed by pabloescabar
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changesets_count | 1 |
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created_by | iD 2.6.0 |
host | https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit |
imagery_used | Bing aerial imagery |
locale | en-US |
Discussion
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Comment from user_5359
Welcome to OSM! Short question: Is this a pond or a private swimming pool?
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Comment from pabloescabar
pool was removed now its a small run off pond or reservoir for house in pool foot print depending on how you want to look at it
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Comment from freebeer
This is very clearly an above-ground, temporary swimming pool and not a pond and has been that way for many, many years.
If you expect anyone to take you seriously, you will need to provide clear photographic evidence, otherwise it will be turned back into a swimming pool.
(Georg, beim ``verbesserung'' hast du leider Bing als Quelle, dabei zu weit nach Norden, fast am Hausumriss gezeichnet... Sieht fuer mich unglaubwurdig aus) -
Comment from pabloescabar
Maybe trying doing research nerd, and look at updated pictures that show the pool was remove before acting like a little bitch.
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1158201,-85.4662143,134m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en -
Comment from pabloescabar
But no worries ill remove it since you count on an out date system of pictures
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Comment from user_5359
Personally, I would be more interested in the outlines of the houses and their addresses than in the current water situation. But everyone has their own personal preferences
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Comment from freebeer
We nerds know that Google Maps and Google images are copyright by Google.
Only copyrighted sources for which OSM has explicit permission may be used for mapping purposes.
Google has invested heavily in acquiring their data and imagery, has *not* given OSM permission to use them in any way (with very rare humanitarian exceptions).
Therefore many mapper nerds, myself included, don't even bother to view Google maps or imageries, for fear of tainting OSM data.
The maps that could legally get away with using your imagery, would be Google Maps themselves, where perhaps you might have better luck. Or a commercial mapping service who pays for access to the Google imageries.
The only images legally available to us are ones that are often obsolete and therefore non-competitive. And in all those cases, what OSM can legally add to the map may be out-of-date, but it is unquestionably legal and permitted.
The other means of verification is an on-the-ground survey, but unless this area has been razed and turned into a giant public park, I suspect any mapper who turns up in person to observe the on-the-ground situation will likely end up being shot rather than welcomed. I know that's my experience in on-the-ground address gathering.
Your data needs to pass the verification test to remain within OSM.
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The second thing we nerds care about, besides the legality of the data, is the correctness of the data.
A `lake' in OSM definition only applies to a natural larger body of water, and that does not cover an area formed by the depression of removal of a man-made structure. There can never be a lake here.
A reservoir in OSM definition would similarly not apply here, with no dam structure for the purpose of a larger-scale water reserve.
What could apply is a construction site formed by removal of the structure, or perhaps a basin if it is a permanent feature and not just a temporary condition or intermittent, just as OSM does not map every puddle that forms, often for weeks after a heavy rain, as either a basin or a pond.
Other more experienced mappers may know what best applies, but without a building and other visible outlines and features from legal imagery in the area, or addresses to aid in geolocation and deliveries, I suspect most mappers can't be arsed for such selective micro-mapping.
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