Changeset: 56623735
Turn fake lake from Pokemon Go mapper lvan999 into the decorative fountain it can be seen to be in reality. #Vanderlismus #OSMRevert2018
Closed by freebeer
Tags
build | 2.5-21-gec1befed |
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created_by | Potlatch 2 |
version | 2.5 |
Discussion
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Comment from RubikCubical
Sorry, I tagged it as water because I couldn't find the fountain feature on the tags. Feel free to revert anything that isn't right. I don't like the personal attack here though, I'm not even from this area and you're making people hate me.
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Comment from freebeer
Hallo Lvan,
Whether people hate you or not depends (ideally) not so much upon what slander and liable and muck I spread about you, but hopefully on your actions in contributing to and editing OSM.
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Your initial impression raised a red flag for me, so that a day or two ago I went through every single edit you made, and yes, I did revert or change things I felt were wrong. But that is not the way we like to do things, other mappers had already offered you feedback that would have helped you avoid making the same mistakes during the time it took for that feedback to arrive via a different channel.
As it happens, I posted bug-report Notes in places still needing attention when I did not make the change myself, in part in the hope another mapper with more patience would try to take you under their arm, as I see Steve A. has done, interact with you, and help you out rather than simply cleaning things up after you.
What I write about you in my comments is based on the impression I get and other mappers are more than welcome to contradict me just as I have contested similar accusations against others.
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*To other mappers:*
I have in fact reviewed the entirety of contributions from The Mapper formerly known as Lvan, so assuming you trust my judgment, no need to repeat this. There is still attention needed in Hawai'i for false lakes, I placed a note (with likely blasphemous language, sorry).
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No, Lvan, I did not single you out individually but as one of several users whose entire edit history I wanted to check out in detail, after having done the same for a user also editing in Hawai'i whom I discovered to have wiped a prominent military facility from the face of the earth, that went unnoticed.
None of your edits have gone this far, although you do appear to be fixated on footways, such as an athletics track someone else added correctly later, and lakes, none of which are actual lakes, and the no-problem buildings, where I must compliment you for adding them in detail far better than average, well done, I could take tips from you.
OpenStreetMap is also based on openness, where anyone like you can analyse any of my changes like here. No problem, I use a different editor (Potlatch) than you so without treading lightly into your environment, I can only say that the fountain amenity is for me the third menu item, last row, and swimming pools almost the bottom of the menu under Sports and whatrot.
Essentially I have reverted or fixed what I feel was wrong, without comment -- due to non-response until, well, I guess yesterday. If you're happy with that and best of all, learn from it, then great. If you want to contest something, then feel free. I agree the OSM distinction between streams and rivers is too vague and arbitrary, where a stream nearby to me is at least 5 metres wide yet normally carries so little water one can cross not with a jump, but without getting much more than ankles wet, and at times there's no water as it all disappears into the ground to emerge rather a distance away.
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If you are not motivated by Pokemon mapping, my deepest apologies - the prominence of lakes, rivers, footpaths and parks fits precisely into a pattern of those who at times abuse OSM to mis-map such things, as well as those who map correctly yet fixate on these objects, overlooking other useful mapping info.
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Given how much time I spent looking at your edits, I'd much rather welcome you to OSM as a good beginning mapper able to learn and improve, than the other user whose last contribution inspiring me to do the same was simple poorly-executed map vandalism.
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That all said, I may comment on later changesets you make, but for now you're off my radar, and I hope other mappers can help you to improve your work (there's a multipolygon you should eventually learn not a km southwest as well as another further away, but these probably aren't beginner concepts).
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