Changeset: 57029045
cycle paths
Closed by Don Dapper
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created_by | iD 2.7.0 |
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Discussion
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Comment from trigpoint
Hi, https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/568194283 is a shared use cycleway/footway. Why would foot access be permissive?
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Comment from Don Dapper
I think it's something to do with how the traffic order works. No part of the highways is unavailable to pedestrians, so a footway is not "designated" for their use; it is merely the part of the highway that vehicles cannot use: essentially all highways are permissive for pedestrians first, with all other users having to be licenced or mandated legally to use it. Therefore, the designation in my mind is the status of the cycle track only, as all parts of public highway remain for pedestrian use unless they are exclusively prohibited.
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Comment from Don Dapper
But traffic orders are generally a dog's breakfast, so who knows!
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Comment from trigpoint
But we map what we see on the ground, we do not have permission to map traffic orders.
Which brings me to https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/568192362
What evidence is there that this is a cycleway, there are no signs and it just looks like a bit of pavement (sidewalk). There are no markings saying this is oneway.What is the source of these edits?
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Comment from Don Dapper
The source of the edits is my having been there yesterday and looking at it. The council have just built a cycle track through the junction.
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Comment from Don Dapper
I'll get some photos when I'm back in just over a week's time.
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Comment from trigpoint
I have seen the cycleway, the signs were a bit hidden when I was driving.
It is not oneway however, there are no such signs and it would be very unusual to have a cycleway that is legally oneway.Permissive means that a landowner has given permission for the public to use paths on their land. That is a very inappropriate tag to use on a public highway.
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