Changeset: 121330580
Some one ways bicycles roads changed to 2way F3
Closed by Nick1960
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Discussion
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Comment from mueschel
Hi,
you used the tag 'overtaking:bicycle' here.
Does that mean that bicycles are not allowed to overtake each other (that's what the tag means according to usual styles)? Or that cars are not allowed to overtake bicycles? -
Comment from bxl-forever
The correct tag for cycle streets is: overtaking:motor_vehicle=no
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Comment from Nick1960
Sorry, for this late reaction, but when cars are not allowed to overtake bicycles with road-sign F111, it seems that the following tags are needed " bicycle=designated, overtaking:motor_vehicle=no, maxspeed=30, cyclestreet=yes" (see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:cyclestreet)
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Comment from bxl-forever
Not really, in fact.
If there are F111 signs, adding cyclestreet=yes is enough. The rest is automatically implied. That’s what we call "implicit tags" in OSM. (For instance, if you draw a road as highway=motorway, it is not necessary to add motor_vehicle=yes, bicycle=no, foot=no… on every road because that is the normal and documented behaviour.)
What the wiki actually says is that if we _explicitely_ want to tag a cyclestreet will all the tags, it should have things like overtaking:motor_vehicle=no and more.
Don’t bother too much with those ones: good navigation software which sees cyclestreet=yes on a road should know that in Belgium the speed can never be higher than 30 kph and that overtaking is prohibited.
The original comment was especially to comment about the "overtaking:bicycle" tag because that was a mistake, which is now fixed.
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Comment from bxl-forever
That being said, the main issue in this area would be to make sure roads are in the correct direction and whether cyclists may use it in both directions.
I see several roads that are tagged as strictly one-way, which is quite rare in Flanders, but it’s possible for streets that are really too narrow. If you have local knowledge and are willing to help, it might be useful to check the streets in that area to be sure that the map reflects the legal situation.
(oneway=yes + oneway:bicycle=no is the combination of tags to use for streets with the white "uitgezonderd fietsers" signs.)
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