Changeset: 15006292
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Closed by pamman
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build | 2.3-554-ge648197 |
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created_by | Potlatch 2 |
version | 2.3 |
Discussion
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Comment from lakedistrict
Hi pamman, do you remember where you got the name "Jakey Tanners" from for http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/149906114 and http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/480951913 ? The source:name=OS_OpenData_StreetView tag refers to the previous tagged name, Brigsteer Road.
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Comment from gurglypipe
There are no road signs calling it Jakey Tanners. There are some references to a road called Jakey Tanners in the Kendal Oral History Group records, but no details online. I’m going to revert this back to Brigsteer Road. pamman, please reply with some source information if you think that stretch of road is actually called Jakey Tanners.
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Comment from lakedistrict
When I first asked this I got a message saying that the name had been "passed down through generations of Kendalians", but as a local I've never heard this name in my life. If there is a source it should be put under loc_name. (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Names#loc_name)
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Comment from gurglypipe
Indeed. I was also wondering whether Jakey Tanners is the name of the track to the SE just E of the A591 bridge.
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Comment from pamman
Jakey Tanners is the name of the road up the hill from the 30 mph sign to the brow of that hill where ‘Dick the Fruiterer’ had a market garden behind the high wall at the entrance to Stainbank Green. The name has been (and still is) used by generations of Kendalians, obviously since Jakey had his tannery nearby. The name, as you say, is mentioned in Kendal’s history and that is why I named it on OSM, to preserve the town’s rich heritage. A place does not have to have a physical sign for it to be known or shown on a map, there are many places named on OSM that have no indication on the ground. In the majority of cases local names came before road signs and that in itself is a good reason for OSM to show this stretch of road as Jakey Tanners.
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Comment from gurglypipe
Thanks for the information. I agree that the name Jakey Tanners should be in the map, but I don’t think it should be the canonical name of the road. The canonical name according to the modern naming databases (the OS Location database and the Royal Mail address database) is Brigsteer Road. As lakedistrict says, this is a good candidate for the loc_name tag. Do you want to re-edit the map and add loc_name=Jakey Tanners? You could also add the source:loc_name tag with a brief description of where the name’s sourced from, to prevent future confusion.
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Comment from pamman
loc-name added
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Comment from lakedistrict
Thanks for the info and thanks for adding the name back to the map, pamman.
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