Changeset: 33452617
Added from the DoBIH and Bing, Classed as a P30 TumP. Summit is in oak and birch woodland Attribution to The Database of British and Irish Hills - http://www.hills-database.co.uk/index.html
Closed by CYM1988
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imagery_used | Bing |
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Discussion
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Comment from SomeoneElse
You're still adding information that at first glance appears to be licensed in a manner not compatible with OSM. In http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/33256350 you said you'd contact the data publishers and the wider OSM community; did either of these actions actually happen?
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Comment from SK53
More to the point nearly all these hill databases are derived from copyright OSGB data. So even if the db owners gave permission, the data will contain OSGB derived data. That's why many heights come from NPE/Provisional 1:25k maps which are out of copyright. Equally most of this info can be merged with OSM without importing it, thus avoiding the awkward stuff about permissions/copyright on the OSM side.
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Comment from CYM1988
Hi, I have spoken with the publishers about the data and the copyright issues surrounding its use in OSM. The elevation data used in the database was collected by surveying teams using GPS equipment of the organization itself, rather than from second hand data from OSGB. I'm aware that many databases of a similar nature aquire their data in this way, especially the smaller ones and as such was careful in my choosing of source material for OSM uses to avoid copyright trouble. Other information such as names and many of the elevation details are freely available on sources such as NPE /Provisional 1:25K maps as well as the database which colates this information into a readable database. The publishers are happy for data to be used in OSM, I have included an attribution addendum in changeset comments where I have used this data anyway (mention of the publishers title and website link) which is the preffered attribution method mentioned on the website in line with the licence. From feedback ive had from further enquiries within OSM, the main thing has been, as you mentioned to avoid OSGB data and derivatives and ask questions to the data publishers on where the source material they use originates, as well as their own licence requirments for use within OSM.
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Comment from SomeoneElse
Re the licence (see http://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License for details) what licence did they make the information to you available under? The "Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported License" mentioned on their download page is unlikely to be compatible with OSM as we can't guarantee downstream attribution on produced works (see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Legal_FAQ#3c._If_I_make_something_with_OSM_data.2C_do_I_now_have_to_apply_your_license_to_my_whole_work.3F ). I would suggest discussing it on the talk-gb list at least https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb .
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Comment from SomeoneElse
To close this loop, there's a quoted reply from one of the people behind DoBIH (and subsequent discussion) at https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2019-February/022501.html and https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2019-February/022515.html .
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