Changeset: 37018285
Adding buildings and added houses and correcting minor roads
Closed by tknudsen
Tags
created_by | JOSM/1.5 (9329 en) |
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source | Norge i Bilder, Statens kartverk, Kystverket, GPS |
Discussion
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Comment from Gazer75
Please do not edit roads and things you know nothing about. You reverted my edit around Anda. Was tempted to revert the entire changeset, but I have instead fixed your road mistakes.
Ask the previous editor if you find data that might not match before editing.
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Comment from tknudsen
Dear sir, what external source are you using that allow you to indicate that my edits are false? Please answer and do not do any more changes until we figure out what source is more valid.
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Comment from Gazer75
My own eyes?
They altered the area when the runway was made longer.
You can check out Google, Bing, Norge i bilder and vegkart.no if you do not believe me. -
Comment from tknudsen
Thank you for your answer.. I used statens kartverk for changing this, but will re-check when I get home from work. Do you know when they changed this due to extension of the runway.. Reason why I am asking is that we are making the the airport for x-plane and we are using the map to populate roads and houses in the area..
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Comment from Gazer75
Karverket can be slow to update some data. Though "Norge i bilder" is showing the new runway and E39 in a picture taken May 2013. Further back in 2010 it was still under construction. Looks like Google map aerial is from around 2010. Bing however have a more recent one showing the longer runway.
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Comment from Gazer75
Keep in mind that "Norge i bilder" can not be used as a source when editing here. This data is not considered open.
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Comment from tknudsen
I have permission to use Norge i Bilder and their wms version is even more detailed within JOSM. But I did check and it seems that Norge i bilder has some older imagery showing the runway not to be updated, so I checked with statkart and it seems to be correct. So for me this is truly ok. Thank you for reverting my changes. I will updated our OSM within the flight simulator to use the latest ones. Let me know if you find any other places where I have amended your change sets, and we will figure it out for sure..
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Comment from Gazer75
If you have a written permission by Kartverket to use those aerials in OSM then you need to post a copy of the permit on the mailing list and put on the OSM wiki. If this is a permission for only you then you can not use it in OSM.
I needs to be reported in as a source we can legally use. -
Comment from tknudsen
The permission is for my company and cannot be shared with the community for all to use.
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Comment from Gazer75
But then you are not allowed to use this in OSM. Data used in OSM need to be open data, not some data that one person have access to.
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Comment from Gazer75
Only data from Kartverket that can be used in OSM is what you find at http://kartverket.no/Kart/Gratis-kartdata/ which is licensed under CC BY 4.0
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Comment from tknudsen
I use my wms data in JOSM, this works great, I also use data from statkart to check in accordance with OSM, been doing this for years. Have a good one. Case closed.
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Comment from Gazer75
This is not a closed case. Will take this with the OSM data working group. Can't have OSM end up in a copyright problem.
You might end up with account ban and all data reverted. Really hope not, but they are very strict on this. So unless you can show a letter saying they explicitly allow you to use this to improve OSM, then this is a legal problem. -
Comment from tknudsen
Do what you like, I have all in perfect order so I have nothing to worry about,There is not copyright issue here, but do what you feel you need to do :)
PS..
Norgeibilder has no user restrictions
https://kartkatalog.geonorge.no/metadata/kartverket/norge-i-bilder-wms/50eaadfc-1f54-4a90-abca-8f3df239a4b7But feel free to ask Jon Arne at kartverket
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Comment from Gazer75
Sent a request for clarification on this.
From what I can tell the wms data is restricted and not released under NLOD or CC BY.
https://kartkatalog.geonorge.no/search?text=bilder
Some of the data have no icon under open data column, but that doesn't mean it can be used. Only data with a green open lock would be acceptable for use in OSM. -
Comment from Gazer75
Got a reply from Jon Arne Trollvik saying no, the Norge i bilder WMS data can not be used for OSM. It has licensing and is not open. So please stop using your WMS access to edit.
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