Changeset: 39898645
fixing GDMBR tags yet again
Closed by AlexC
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Discussion
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Comment from stevea
You are NOT "fixing" this route by changing its tags from network=icn to network=ncn. This is under no circumstances a network=ncn route. It is an international mountain bike route and that is NOT an ncn by any definition. If you are making this change so that you can see the route render in a particular renderer, you are misusing OSM.
Please read our wiki(s), please follow the rules.
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Comment from SK53
It would be better if both of you respected the judgement of two very experienced OSM bicycle mappers who both regard this as route=mtb. See the mail by Richard Fairhurst to talk-us about this https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2016-May/016206.html, and the comment by Simon Poole on OSM Help.
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Comment from stevea
I do respect OSM, and am a respected OSM bicycle mapper since 2009, even speaking about national bicycle routing in the USA at SOTM-US in 2014 (see http://vimeo.com/91897324) AND I extensively consulted with Richard Fairhurst on his cycle.travel router, for which he publicly and profusely thanked me. The mail you refer to is in answer to me (you are welcome to check). But this is not a measuring contest, is it?
Please see our wikis on United States/Bicycle Networks and WikiProject U.S. Bicycle Route System for the vast amount of work we do on bicycle routes here in the USA to achieve good OSM harmony.
I would be happy to see deleted on GDMBR the network=icn tag, agreeing with your assertion that this is a route=mtb. It seems like "both" but only because it is international. But seeing as network=icn captures the international semantic AND ALSO (incorrectly) implies a paved route, network=icn can and should be deleted, imo.
Let's end this by tagging GDMBR route=mtb and NOT tagged network=icn or network=ncn. Considering the cycle_network=ACA (and I am familiar with many staff and officers of Adventure Cycling Association, the USA's premier national biking organization), this route could/should even be properly deleted from OSM altogether, as since ACA routes are copyrighted, entering them violates ODBL.
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