Changeset: 40194753
DeRose Method schools in UK
Closed by wille
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Discussion
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Comment from Chris Fleming
Do you know exactly where the Edinburgh one is. The address given currently has a branch of Sally hairdressers, which there website indicates is still open. Is it inside that properly or somewhere else nearby?
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Comment from wille
I don't know exactly, but their address is 26 Howe Street. I think it is in a superior floor https://twitter.com/DeRoseNewTown/status/175511062869835776
This photo shows that it is at the side of future property auctions https://www.instagram.com/p/1TfzeJOD2H/
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Comment from Chris Fleming
Thanks - I might put a note on the map for someone to confirm the exact location. There is a door currently labelled as 28 that I think goes to the upstairs properties.
Also I'm not sure if amenity=school is the correct tagging, as school normally indicates formal 5 to 18 education.
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Comment from wille
we don't have a tag alternative to amenity=school to things like language courses, arts or another type of non formal education... :(
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Comment from SomeoneElse
@wille it's been discussed on the mailing lists at least once:
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2013-September/thread.html#14742
There may be others - try doing a site search of site:https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/ for different sorts of school.
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Comment from eric_
Why not creating a new tag here for this kind of school (even if there is a limited number of them at the moment), e.g. amenity=derose_school or derose_method_school, the same way that amenity=language_school has been created (see the urls above written by SomeoneElse).
What do you think to use two names for these schools: a short one, "DeRose Method" , and a long one (using alt_name), "DeRose Method - New Town" (the same way the names of the supermarkets don't include the neighbourhood in which they are located)?
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Comment from wille
Hi Eric,
Thank you for your comment. It seems amenity=language_school and music_school are not yet approved, nor supported by the editors, so I prefer to wait for some approval of those kind of tags before propose a new one.
In relation to the names, in the case of DeRose Method schools, we call every school with its complete name, since it's not a franchise system, but a network of autonomous schools.
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Comment from Chris Fleming
It's worth noting that approved tags do not hold absolute authority. We should tag things with the most appropriate tag, and then push for that tag to be accepted, as one of the considerations when "accepting" tags is the current usage
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Comment from eric_
Hi wille, thanks for your answer. I agree with what Chris wrote for several reasons: 1. all the approved tags aren't rendered by the default map renderer, 2. the OSM specifications are a kind of foundation to build the OSM database, the default map renderer isn't, 3. the current OSM specifications do not yet covered all the mappable objects so it's good to try pushing some new tags into the OSM specifications, 4. if you use amenity=school, it can lead to some confusions for OSM data consumers/OSM users.
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Comment from wille
Thanks, Eric and Chris
I'll propose a tag for informal education on the tagging list and ask them to speed up the approval.
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