Changeset: 55125835
Set disused railway (according to NESA) and loading gauges.
Closed by Legolash2oLiam
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created_by | JOSM/1.5 (13265 en_GB) |
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source | NESA |
Discussion
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Comment from SomeoneElse
Hi,
Just wondered if https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/316865419/history etc. was still "landuse=railway" if the Bevercotes branch is no longer in use?
Best Regards,
Andy -
Comment from Legolash2oLiam
Sorry! I believe I made a mistake.
I've hopefully fixed. I am adding it's speed limits, restrictions, etc...
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Comment from SomeoneElse
Thanks. What's the licence for the NESA data?
Best Regards,
Andy -
Comment from Legolash2oLiam
There are downloadable PDFs on the link below.
Because NR are publicly funded are required to be open on most things. You can ask for an account and you should have one in 10 days. The account makes it easier to find routes rather than trawling through an entire PDF.
I've also put in a FOI request for all of rail signal locations in a spreadsheet for the LNE and LNW areas. They've approved and should have them by Jan 30th.
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Comment from Legolash2oLiam
An example is the just the London North Eastern from the Network Rail site. It's 1186 pages but contains exactly the same information on the on-line version.
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Comment from SomeoneElse
Unfortunately I don't think that "are publicly funded are required to be open on most things" will be good enough. Also, https://www.networkrail.co.uk/terms-and-conditions/ seems to explicitly prohibit use here.
What I'd suggest is that you contact them and obtain an explicit waiver or similar - see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/GettingPermission for more information.
Best Regards,
Andy -
Comment from Legolash2oLiam
Yeah I knew that quote could back fire. I remember reading on the Network Rail website something similar. They don't however release information on equipment location (in case of theft). Hence why I had to do a FOI request.
Which part of the text are you referring to when you say "explicitly prohibits use here". The only part of see is about sharing account details.
My counter are as follows.
1. The PDF are publicly available to anyone online via their own website.
2. I'm only adding information from the already publicly available source. I have not and will not post any information that is not already available in said document.
3. There is already data contains LOR, ELR, speeds and loading gauges before I even started.
It may be easier to send messages directly rather than comments. Also, I will do as you suggested with NR for further clarification. :)
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Comment from SomeoneElse
I said "explicitly prohibits" because the Ts and Cs of the website talked about "personal and noncommercial use", which wouldn't be good enough for OSM. Now obviously exactly which data that applies to is a different question, but you've already asked them now, which is great :)
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Comment from Legolash2oLiam
Just putting this out there. I got a response back from Network Rail saying it's fine as long as we source the information.
I've sent an exact quote to SomeoneElse just in case.
Ways (10)
- Bevercotes Branch (8610093), v10
- Bevercotes Branch (178898252), v2
- Bevercotes Branch (178898255), v3
- Boughton Brake Tunnel (178898267), v4
- Bevercotes Branch (178898274), v3
- Bevercotes Branch (178898285), v6
- Bevercotes Branch (178898297), v3
- 263217922, v4
- 263217924, v4
- Bevercotes Branch (316741486), v2
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