Changeset: 59713046
国道58号を修正
Closed by Otenkiya
Tags
created_by | JOSM/1.5 (13878 ja) |
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source | knowledge;Bing |
Discussion
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Comment from GerdP
Hi! I wonder what you tried to map here.
You have created some ways with highway=route and more tags corresponding to the relation https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2972065
Did you mean route=ferry instead? See
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:route%3Dferry -
Comment from yumean1119
To GerdP:
I'm a local mapper in Okayama. Some national highways in Japan contain ferry routes. National Route 58 is such a way with the longest ferry routes, connecting Kagoshima and Naha via Tanegashima and Amami Oshima.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_National_Route_58 -
Comment from GerdP
To yumean119:
OK, maybe you can correct the wrong parts so that routing will work? -
Comment from yumean1119
To GerdP:
To tell the truth, if routing engines showed the way from Kagoshima to Naha via Route 58, it would be a serious mistake. Why? The marine routes in Route 58 from a legal point of view are different from actual ferry routes, and no ferries are operated now between Tanegashima and Amami Oshima. The other ferry routes(Kagoshima to Tanegashima and Amami Oshima to Okinawa) are acutually operated and their ways are mapped separately from Route 58.
In conclusion, it would be the best to leave these "wrong" parts inaccessible. -
Comment from Otenkiya
To GerdP and yumean119:
The road route is a series of structures, not traffics. And, in principle, the national highway is certified as continuous road structures.
In the case of Route 58, the route is determined to pass over the sea, but the operators (Government of Japan and local municipalities) does not provide any services (All existing ferries are operated by private enterprises and are not directly connected to Route 58). However, since the routes need to be contiguous, I simply drawn the line using the provisional tag "highway=route" to indicate the connection. To indicate that it is irrelevant to traffic, I use "access = no."
In the area of Japan, there is a precedent that the line was drawn in order to show that it is continuous even if there are unspecified parts at the municipality boundary. -
Comment from GerdP
Maybe you can use highway=no instead?
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Comment from Otenkiya
In Japan, if the road is legally certified, it will be treated as having a route even if there is no physical entity. For example, in road statistics, the total length includes the maritime section.
I feel that "highway = no" even denies the existence of a legal concept. -
Comment from GerdP
OK, I give up. You want to establish a new tag here and up to now it seems that I am the only one who doesn't like it. Since you added access=no at least it should not any harm.
Ways (17)
- 国道58号 (596121035), v1
- 国道58号(海上区間) (596121036), v1
- 国道58号(海上区間) (596121037), v1
- 国道331号 (596121038), v1
- 那覇東バイパス (596121039), v1
- 読谷道路 (47348389), v13
- 国道331号 (54277105), v11
- 国道58号 (124866919), v8
- 国道331号 (223938890), v5
- 那覇東バイパス (243543445), v7
- 383406124, v5
- 読谷道路 (397627303), v4
- 読谷道路 (413711800), v3
- 読谷道路 (413711801), v2
- 国道58号 (451029991), v3
- 451029992, v4
- 国道58号(海上区間) (561255584), v3
Relations (11)
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