Changeset: 74373081
Wycofanie błędnych edycji.
Closed by pio2_122
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Comment from Megachip
Hi Pio2. Whats wrong with this regions?
They are listened by granice_obrebow ... -
Comment from pio2_122
Obręb ewidencyjny is not a region or any other administrative boundary!
It's used only for the purposes of the cadastre = useless for OSM in Poland.If I'm not mistaken, the German equivalent of Obręb ewidencyjny is "Gemarkung".
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Comment from Megachip
Thanks for explaining. In Germany “Gemarkung” mostly define the boarder of an “Gemeinde” ... regarding to OSM Wiki I would expect Wilkoszyce as lvl 11 and Chojna as lvl 9.
Atm nominatim provides the following structure, which feels wrong:
gmina Chojna -> Krupin -> Rurczyna -
Comment from Megachip
For me,
Granice_obwodow_spisowych
and
Granice_obrebow_ewidencyjnych
feels like valid relation boarder sources -
Comment from pio2_122
Nope, these are not administrative boundaries!!
Obwód spisowy is used only for Census (useless for OSM) and obręb ewidencyjny is used only for the purposes of the cadastre (useless for OSM too).All administrative boundaries in Poland are listed here:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Poland/Podzia%C5%82_administracyjny#Tagowanie_jednostek_administracyjnych -
Comment from Megachip
Thanks for the quick response. So you think Krupin/Wilkoszyce/Chonja 2 aren't "Przysiółki / części miejscowości"
These article you posted define admin_level in Poland till 16 (granice działek ewidencyjnych) ...So if google translate isn't wrong, it would be admin_level 9 or 10?
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Comment from pio2_122
I've added is_in:village tag and Nominatim works correctly for Rurczyna: 1, Rurczyna, Rurka, gmina Chojna, powiat gryfiński, województwo zachodniopomorskie, 74-500, Polska
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Comment from pio2_122
According to Wikipedia: Krupin - an unofficial part of the city of Chojna.
admin_level is not for unofficial things :)
Now, Krupin is only a street name in Chojna. So the node with Krupin as a village should be removed or tagged in different way.
Wilkoszyce is "osada". Places like osada have no official borders.
Chojna 2 is a obręb ewidencyjny (described above; not a administrative boundary) -
Comment from Megachip
Hmm... makes sense...
But Krupin is listened as "Boundaries of Census Circuits" which sounds official for me.
Both came from national register of bondaries ... but cause I'm not able to read polish, maybe that's translation issues :/Translations seems funny ;) My Wikipedia told me the following:
"Krupin [ˈkrupin] is a village in the administrative district of Gmina Chojna, within Gryfino County, West Pomeranian Voivodeship, in north-western Poland, close to the German border."P.S. Thanks for the is_in. Lets see, if this solves at least the nominatim problem. But I would prefer relations, cause the street south of Krupin isn't either in Krupin nor in Krupin, Rurczyna. (where nominatim put it whyever)
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Comment from pio2_122
Census Circuit is boundary only for statistical office. So, it's not administrative boundary.
The article on English Wikipedia about Krupin is out of date, the Polish version is correct :)
The street south of Krupin isn't in any village, but nominatim tries to display the nearest name of place=*
In Poland, villages have no official borders. -
Comment from Megachip
Now it's getting more strange... Since a week or two, nominatim delivers: Rurczyna as an subjegion of Wilkoszyce ... ah, you changed krupin to neighbourhood.
And krupin is not existing anymore ;)Interesting side effects ;)
Best,
meg -
Comment from Megachip
BTW, both settlements are still categorized as "village" in wikipedia.
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Comment from pio2_122
Nominatim is just broken...
Rurczyna and Krupin are tagged correctly with is_in:* tag.But for me Rurczyna is good desricbed in Nominatim (as Rurczyna, Rurka, gmina Chojna,...): https://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/reverse.php?format=json&lat=52.9998157449019&lon=14.439167976379396&zoom=42
Krupin is described as "Krupin, Rurczyna, Wilkoszyce, gmina Chojna,..."
https://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/reverse?format=json&lat=52.96806&lon=14.40083&zoom=42Krupin is now (in OSM) within the city limits of Chojna - thanks to the user @maraf24, who has access to the current borders.
So, I hope that Nominatim will notice it soon.
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