Hallo, das können wir sicherlich machen. Wir sind immer froh über offizielle Quellen/Daten.

Die 1. Frage die hier (leider) immer zu stellen ist: Unter welche Lizenz sind die Daten nutzbar, d.h. kann OSM die Daten unter den OSM-Copyright-Bedingungen nutzen?

Wir könnten dann die “Tourismus Information Eichstätt” in die Liste der Beitragenden/Mitwirkenden aufnehmen.

I agree, level= can be useful at any object.

However, the author of StreetsGL suggested that level= is defined for buildings - inside buildings - only.

That’s why he does not render anything where level starts with a ‘-‘, assuming that this is ‘covered’, underground, …

Sorry, Bus 271 should not point to ‘localhost’

Wow, this is really awesome!

I’ve fixed a bus route within few minutes very easily and the task was quite intuitive. Although collecting the new stops in wrong order, Relatify sorted them correctly, adding stop_position and platform with a single click per location.

Bus 271 needs some re-work due to long-lasting constructions in Deining. Relatify excluded the highway=construction and I was able to complete the route with the detour via Ergertshausen (south-west), Sachsenhausen and Hornstein. I did not upload that yet - have to verify the new stops first, based on MVV’s website (we have permission to use that).

This is much faster than in JOSM.

Thanks for the tool.

PTNA Analysis: done, will be visible first for Australia @ 16:35 UTC today, last for Alaska @ 11:05 UTC tomorrow

Thanks :)

Holger from OpenTransportMeetup just pointed me to that

https://relatify.monicz.dev/?relation=2634688&load=1

and that you’re going to add code for the load=1 …

and that you’re going to present this there on 2023-07-26 (don’t know yet whether I can make it on that day).

Hey, that’s great.

How can I directly link to a relation?

I consider adding a link per relation in PTNA

https://ptna.openstreetmap.de/results/PL/14/PL-14-ZTM-Warszawa-Analysis.html#bus_141

Like the links to iD, JOSM and PTNA in the 3rd column

Do you know PTNA which does QA, in Spain currently “only” for Zaragoza?

It can easily be extended for other areas/cities as well.

Es empfiehlt sich daher, auch auf die Access-Tags zurückzugreifen.

Die access-tags von OSM sind generisch und weltweit sowie langfristig gültig.

Welche Anwendung mag sich schon mit traffic_sign=DE:xyz, identisch zu traffic_sign=FR:asd identisch zu traffic_sign=US:ghj rumschlagen.

Ähm, sorry I forgot the say: “Thanks for the offer!” I think we will find a way to make use of it.

Unfortunately, “Data license Germany – attribution – version 2.0” seems to me not being compatible with OSM.

We cannot place the source of every contribution/data on every derived OSM map. OSM is primarily a Data Base. Rendering maps using the data is a second, independent step which can be performed by anyone (also outside the OSM ecosystem, commercial purpose).

What we can do is, putting a note on our “Contributors page”.

I would like to ask you:

1. for a “go”, i.e. it is OK to put the “attribution” only on the “Contributors page” - if possible

2. to discuss this in a wider audience, the German forum

If you’d like to add more public transport route, kindly have a look at the (currently valid and approved) Public Transport schema (so called: version 2 = “PTv2”)

There are some PT QA tools out there

• OSM inspector: PT stops view and PT routes view

• PTNA: analysis for selected ‘networks’. I can easily add some ‘networks’ for Ukraine.

• see also the FAQ on other tools at PTNA

What about using route:category with values normal, intercity, metro, express, suburban, …

Sorry, wrong URL, typo

https://ptna.openstreetmap.de/

Maybe you want to check the bus route relations using PTNA - Public Transport Network Analysis?

Check it out: https://ptna.opensteetmap.de

I can add support for your area within few minutes.

Ansonsten: heute Abend 20:00 ist OSM-Stammtisch Stuttgart - online

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Stuttgart/Stammtisch

Jede(r) ist willkommen, Themen nicht vorgegeben, …

Versuche es mal mit Brouter

http://brouter.de/brouter-web/#map=7/49.214/12.030/osm-mapnik-german_style

Der ist am flexibelsten, man kann

• no-go-Areas einzeichnen
• selber via’-Punkte definieren
• selber das Profil (meide Straße, vom Typ x, bevorzuge Feldwege, …) anpassen

My hope is that no one will use that non-trail.

Fire Fighters, Police, Rescue, Amazon Logistics, UPS, Post, … may want to use this trail if it leads to a house, …

Adding access=private is the right way

Public Transport in OSM is in fact not easy to map.

The older (legacy) version, also called PTv1 (public_transport:version=1), allows mapping a bus route with a single relation - same technique as with hiking, cycling, skiing, mtb, … routes - but adding bus stops/platforms. As such, PTv1 routes are OK for “painting a red line on a map”, but not really more than that.

The newer one, called PTv2, is more complex and complicated - yes. But it allows data consumers other than map-painters making use of structured data. PTNA focuses on PTv2 relations. PTv2 has a lot of ‘optional’ and ‘recommended’ but only few ‘madatory’ features/tags. To be honest: map as many optional/recommended features/tags as possible.

Regarding PTNA and adding a new ‘network’ or other areas: the easiest way for you is to “give me ring” via mail with some details. It’s then more or less a matter of copy&paste (for me).

The alternative is to do it on your own in GitHub:

1.) for the new ‘network’ to be analyzed: https://github.com/osm-ToniE/ptna-networks

2.) for the web page: https://github.com/osm-ToniE/ptna-www

But there are only 1 or 2 mappers (< 10 ‘network’) doing it this way.