Changeset: 61984835
OSM-ItalyFuelStations, modified objects not new
Closed by Cascafico
Tags
created_by | JOSM/1.5 (14178 it) |
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source | MISE - Ministero Sviluppo Economico |
source.date | 2018-04-17 |
Discussion
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Comment from dieterdreist
Can you please point me to the discussion on the import mailing list about this import? Where and when was concluded to perform the import of this data?
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Comment from luschi
Hi attilaimport/Attila_immport/Cascafico,
why do you have changed the brand on the node #296423324?
I fixed the brand 3 months ago!
The data you using for this "import" are not up to date!!
you should check your data before uploading wrong data to OSM!!!
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Comment from dieterdreist
Looking at this node, it seems somehow the audit tool doesn’t show the current data: http://audit.osmz.ru/map/IFS#15/46.6446/11.6746
Do I interpret this correctly that the node was manually checked and set to ok?
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Comment from Cascafico
@luschi
brand has been set by this changeset import
and was feeded directly from operator, which filled the form issued by MISE. If on-site you see "firmin", feel free to change it. Officially brand shuold be "Tamoil" so I' rather upgrade "name" tag. -
Comment from Cascafico
@dieterdreist
due to the large number of auditable objects, some time has passed between loading it to audit server and freeezing the project. In this period luschi updated some tags Tamoil->firmin. Import process doesn't know on-site situation, but relies on MISE dataset, which yesterday still listed Tamoil as Bandiera (brand). If luschi is the actual operator, he/she should update MISE anagrafica via official procedure. If not, luschi can simply update/upgrade tags. -
Comment from dieterdreist
If the official dataset still has the old brand, months after the luschi has detected a different brand on the ground, it is just another piece in the MISE puzzle which seems to show their data doesn’t comply with the OSM quality expectations. Not only have we imported April data in August, we also know now for sure that April data can be much older than April.
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Comment from luschi
@ Cascafico:
I changed the brand now to "Firmin".
There is a pole with the name on it.@dieterdreist:
How will we handle the name=... of the fuel stations?
I think a lot of user will have a name on the fuel station, because brand is not rendered(I know the rule to not map for the renderer).I think the name should also be fixed during this imports/edits. We should have a unified tagging in Italy, not everything mixed, because actually are some stations without name, some with the name from the brand/operator and some with the name of the rest area near the motorways.
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Comment from dieterdreist
@luschi the names can be updated by local mappers (and should) according to a survey. Please let's not introduce even more problems by importing more MISE mess. Their database is like openstreetmap without a community ;-)
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Comment from dieterdreist
regarding the uniformity of tagging: in part this is also because the situation on the ground is different, some have a clearly visible or well known name, others don't. We should not seek consistency "within Italy" by filling out values for all possible keys, but consistency by treating the same kind of situation everywhere the same.
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- Skaraba (58680938), v6
- Agip (58710312), v5
- Esso (58887814), v5
- 59045076, v2
- 59140156, v3
- 59142608, v5
- 59207778, v2
- 59272533, v5
- 59280056, v4
- 59423071, v2
- 59624037, v6
- 59633077, v4
- 59837766, v2
- Agip (61567385), v3
- ERG (61653801), v6
- Esso (61654444), v3
- Esso (62035125), v5
- Total (62079135), v2
- IP (62232250), v4
- Metano (228243057), v8
- TotalErg (228243064), v5
- IP (228243240), v6
- Tamoil (228243406), v6
- Tamoil (228243697), v5
- Agip (228243859), v4
- Agip (228243863), v5
- IES (228244173), v6
- 228244345, v4
- 4 Petroli (228244681), v5
- Total (228244684), v6
- Carburanti (228244686), v6
- Agip (228244688), v8
- Tamoil (228244699), v5
- Agip (228244706), v5
- Mascherone Est (228244707), v6
- Esso (228244710), v5
- Agip (228244718), v5
- Total (228244721), v6
- Esso (228244728), v4
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